From: MeM on
On Apr 18, 11:49 pm, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:16 pm, purple <pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote:
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> > On 4/14/2010 7:47 PM, Ostap Bender wrote:
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> > > On Apr 14, 5:35 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com>  wrote:
> > >> On 4/14/2010 6:38 PM, Ostap Bender wrote:
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> > >>> On Apr 12, 7:44 am, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com>    wrote:
> > >>>> On 4/12/2010 6:33 AM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
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> > >>>>> On Apr 9, 6:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
> > >>>>> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com>      wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Apr 8, 5:34 am, Link<marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>      wrote:
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> > >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 3:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
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> > >>>>>>> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com>      wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2:59 am, "marty.musa...(a)gmail.com"
>
> > >>>>>>>> <me...(a)vzw.blackberry.net>      wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Link<marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The key to cracking any cipher is elephant. Simply
> > >>>>>>>>>> look for consistent
> > >>>>>>>>>>> variable repetition following the form of the word
> > >>>>>>>>>> elephant. There are
> > >>>>>>>>>>> very few words in language that repeat letters in
> > >>>>>>>>>> the pattern of the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> word elephant.
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ELEPHANT
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 12134567
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ANARCHY
>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ERELATER
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> > >>>>>>>>>> ERE-what?! And how many E's are there?
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> > >>>>>>>>> I don't know how many E's there are yet because I don't know what "e" is yet. You are missing the point I fear.
> > >>>>>>>>> The point is it does not matter. What matters is finding the ordered repetition modelling the word then try all letters.
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> > >>>>>>>>> ERELATER could be a remnant fragment of a continuing sentence of a continuous cipher.
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> > >>>>>>>>> the example might be [h]"ere later" preceeded by "meet me"
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> > >>>>>>>> You are way too brilliant for me.
>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you for the compliment, but I insist I am not.
>
> > >>>>>>> I am just saying, trying to make a simple point about ciphers, that,
> > >>>>>>> by assuming knowledge of the key and acting on it, this is the best
> > >>>>>>> way to decrypt. The numbers of times letters repeat in three letters
> > >>>>>>> being two, as in the beginning three letters of elephant is a great
> > >>>>>>> start.
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> > >>>>>>> The word elephant does not actually have to be there. Any of the below
> > >>>>>>> representations could be the word elephant.
>
> > >>>>>>>     E L E P H A N T
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> > >>>>>>>     M A M O C D T O
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> > >>>>>>>     T O T I A B C D
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> > >>>>>>> The point is you have letter 1, followed by letter 2, then letter 1
> > >>>>>>> again, followed by a continues four unique letters different from the
> > >>>>>>> first three spaces occupied by the first two characters.
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> > >>>>>> That's brilliant. Unfortunately for you, the string "ERELATER" does
> > >>>>>> NOT satisfy your condition. Hint: it has three occurrences of letter
> > >>>>>> "E".
>
> > >>>>>>> Try this method to any language cipher and you may find it is
> > >>>>>>> effective.
>
> > >>>>>> Thank you. Next time I need to decipher what my little daughter writes
> > >>>>>> to her little sister - I will.
>
> > >>>>> Better off to work towards creating a world where ciphers aren't
> > >>>>> needed.
>
> > >>>> When Garfield becomes president your wish will come true!
>
> > >>> That's already happened:
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> > >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield
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> > >>> James Abram Garfield (November 19, 1831 – September 19, 1881) was the
> > >>> 20th President of the United States.
>
> > >> Wrong Garfield.
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> > >>http://www.garfield.com/
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> > > I suspect that either you think there exists only one Garfield in the
> > > World OR you have no sense of humor OR both.
>
> > There is one god, there is one Garfield, and thank god and Garfield
> > there is only one you. Or is there......
>
> No. There are quit ea few Ostaps Benders in this World. There is even
> a Wikipedia article about us.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Strange.

=//
From: purple on
On 4/19/2010 4:06 AM, MeM wrote:
> On Apr 18, 11:49 pm, Ostap Bender<ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 9:16 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote:
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>>> On 4/14/2010 7:47 PM, Ostap Bender wrote:

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>>>>>>>> Better off to work towards creating a world where ciphers aren't
>>>>>>>> needed.
>>
>>>>>>> When Garfield becomes president your wish will come true!
>>
>>>>>> That's already happened:
>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield
>>
>>>>>> James Abram Garfield (November 19, 1831 � September 19, 1881) was the
>>>>>> 20th President of the United States.
>>
>>>>> Wrong Garfield.
>>
>>>>> http://www.garfield.com/
>>
>>>> I suspect that either you think there exists only one Garfield in the
>>>> World OR you have no sense of humor OR both.
>>
>>> There is one god, there is one Garfield, and thank god and Garfield
>>> there is only one you. Or is there......
>>
>> No. There are quit ea few Ostaps Benders in this World. There is even
>> a Wikipedia article about us.- Hide quoted text -
>>

> Strange.


Yet somehow not compelling.

*Garfield for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*