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From: J Kenneth King on 22 Oct 2009 10:45 Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes: > Anti Vigilante wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 01:40 -0400, Dave Searles wrote: >>> vippstar wrote: >>>> On Oct 20, 10:47 am, Petter Gustad <newsmailco...(a)gustad.com> wrote: >>>>> Quite some time ago somebody posted an URL to an image showing some >>>>> Lisp code which were annotated "What you see", with blurred code and >>>>> highlighted parenthesis. And then "What I see" (or something like >>>>> that) with blurred parenthesis and highlighted code. >>>>> >>>>> Anybody have this URL? >>>> Searching the web is too hard in 2009. >>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22what+the+non-lisper+sees%22 >>> This is the only link posted in this thread and it does not lead to >>> the image in question. It leads to a lot of text discussing the >>> image, at reddit and a couple of other sites, but not, strangely, >>> to the image. Using the same query in Google Image Search also is >>> useless. >>> >>> Direct link, please. >> >> The link takes no more than two or three clicks to find. > > It does not. I said again, clicking through from the SERP to most of > the results and poking around does not turn up THE ACTUAL IMAGE. It > turns up some long comment threads on reddit, and some other images > (as thumbnails), but nothing matching the description in this thread. > > Direct link, please. No, it actually does lead to the image in question. I found it without issue. http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1397/lispnd7.png Was that too hard?
From: Dave Searles on 22 Oct 2009 23:35 J Kenneth King wrote: > Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes: > >> Anti Vigilante wrote: >>> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 01:40 -0400, Dave Searles wrote: >>>> vippstar wrote: >>>>> On Oct 20, 10:47 am, Petter Gustad <newsmailco...(a)gustad.com> wrote: >>>>>> Quite some time ago somebody posted an URL to an image showing some >>>>>> Lisp code which were annotated "What you see", with blurred code and >>>>>> highlighted parenthesis. And then "What I see" (or something like >>>>>> that) with blurred parenthesis and highlighted code. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anybody have this URL? >>>>> Searching the web is too hard in 2009. >>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22what+the+non-lisper+sees%22 >>>> This is the only link posted in this thread and it does not lead to >>>> the image in question. It leads to a lot of text discussing the >>>> image, at reddit and a couple of other sites, but not, strangely, >>>> to the image. Using the same query in Google Image Search also is >>>> useless. >>>> >>>> Direct link, please. >>> The link takes no more than two or three clicks to find. >> It does not. I said again, clicking through from the SERP to most of >> the results and poking around does not turn up THE ACTUAL IMAGE. It >> turns up some long comment threads on reddit, and some other images >> (as thumbnails), but nothing matching the description in this thread. >> >> Direct link, please. > > No, it actually does lead to the image in question. I found it without > issue. > > http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1397/lispnd7.png Thanks. Now could you post the exact chain of links you followed from the SERP to this URL? I'll show what I did. The first hit on the SERP is http://swik.net/Emacs/del.icio.us+tag%2Femacs/What+the+non-Lisper+sees+%28reddit.com%29/bggrf which has very little on it -- a GNU logo, "What the non-Lisper sees (reddit.com)", "created on blah blah blah" and a "read more" link, and useless-looking right-hand navbar, header, and footer. In particular the only images on that page are the GNU logo, a little tag icon by "Tag this Entry" in the navbar, and the background image that gives the page header its pinstripes, and the only link on that page that is specific to that page's content instead of a header, footer, breadcrumb, or navbar link is the "read more" link. That link goes to a long comment thread at http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27wod/what_the_nonlisper_sees with no images and no apparent links to images. The only link I noticed is something to do with emacs paredit mode. Back to the SERP then: Second hit is to another swik.net page that looks equally useless. Third is to the Google Groups page for this usenet thread. The next few look unpromising until http://www.reddit.com/domain/img264.imageshack.us which has a number of image thumbnails in it but none look relevant. I also looked at the next two hits after that one since they also looked potentially relevant. I'd like to know what you did differently that led you to the image. Was it Y-Combinator or marcoil.org? Was there something at the swik.net page, a link I ignored because it looked irrelevant perhaps?
From: TJ Atkins on 23 Oct 2009 09:13 On Oct 22, 10:35 pm, Dave Searles <sear...(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: > Thanks. Now could you post the exact chain of links you followed from > the SERP to this URL? > > I'll show what I did. > > The first hit on the SERP is > > http://swik.net/Emacs/del.icio.us+tag%2Femacs/What+the+non-Lisper+see... > > which has very little on it -- a GNU logo, "What the non-Lisper sees > (reddit.com)", "created on blah blah blah" and a "read more" link, and > useless-looking right-hand navbar, header, and footer. In particular the > only images on that page are the GNU logo, a little tag icon by "Tag > this Entry" in the navbar, and the background image that gives the page > header its pinstripes, and the only link on that page that is specific > to that page's content instead of a header, footer, breadcrumb, or > navbar link is the "read more" link. > > That link goes to a long comment thread at > > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27wod/what_the_nonlisper... > > with no images and no apparent links to images. The only link I noticed > is something to do with emacs paredit mode. You were almost there! From the reddit thread, click the link at the top (that links to the actual story the thread is about). That's the image. I think reddit's setup is extremely confusing as well, though - I've been tripped up by it before, since I only go there when someone sends me a link. ~TJ
From: Dave Searles on 23 Oct 2009 11:22 TJ Atkins wrote: > On Oct 22, 10:35 pm, Dave Searles <sear...(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: >> Thanks. Now could you post the exact chain of links you followed from >> the SERP to this URL? >> >> I'll show what I did. >> >> The first hit on the SERP is >> >> http://swik.net/Emacs/del.icio.us+tag%2Femacs/What+the+non-Lisper+see... >> >> which has very little on it -- a GNU logo, "What the non-Lisper sees >> (reddit.com)", "created on blah blah blah" and a "read more" link, and >> useless-looking right-hand navbar, header, and footer. In particular the >> only images on that page are the GNU logo, a little tag icon by "Tag >> this Entry" in the navbar, and the background image that gives the page >> header its pinstripes, and the only link on that page that is specific >> to that page's content instead of a header, footer, breadcrumb, or >> navbar link is the "read more" link. >> >> That link goes to a long comment thread at >> >> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27wod/what_the_nonlisper... >> >> with no images and no apparent links to images. The only link I noticed >> is something to do with emacs paredit mode. > > You were almost there! From the reddit thread, click the link at the > top (that links to the actual story the thread is about). That's the > image. Idiot website designer! Why hide it in the heading fluff where nobody will look for anything? And using <img src=> instead of <a href=> would have been another way of being, if not smart, then at least less stupid. Making matters worse, you see and ignore links like that all the time even if they're NOT hidden in the heading mixed in with non-page-specific stuff. Headings that are also links are almost always either section links (same page, <a href=#some_anchor name=some_anchor>, made a link so people can right-click-copy-link to paste a link direct to that section into another place -- I wish Wikipedia would do this with its section headings) or else the permalink to a thread/comment/blog post/whatever (often, both).
From: Maciej Pasternacki on 20 Oct 2009 03:57 On 2009-10-20 09:47:38 +0200, Petter Gustad <newsmailcomp6(a)gustad.com> said: > Quite some time ago somebody posted an URL to an image showing some > Lisp code which were annotated "What you see", with blurred code and > highlighted parenthesis. And then "What I see" (or something like > that) with blurred parenthesis and highlighted code. > > Anybody have this URL? http://img264.imageshack.us/i/lispnd7.png/ ? hth, Maciej. -- Maciej Pasternacki -><- http://www.pasternacki.net/ -><- http://www.3ofcoins.net/
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