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From: BobF on 26 May 2010 06:29 On 5/26/2010 4:42 AM, Giovanni Dicanio wrote: > > "Tom Serface" <tom(a)camaswood.com> wrote: > >> Remember though... no MFC with the Express version so you'll have to >> either do .NET apps or really simple GUI C++ apps. > > Neither MFC nor ATL... > > I think this was not a wise move for Microsoft, because the lack of MFC > and ATL would push people using VC++ Express to experiment and learn > open-source libraries like wxWidgets... > > Giovanni > > Or newfangled MS stuff like C# :-)
From: Martin B. on 26 May 2010 07:57 BobF wrote: > On 5/26/2010 4:42 AM, Giovanni Dicanio wrote: >> >> "Tom Serface" <tom(a)camaswood.com> wrote: >> >>> Remember though... no MFC with the Express version so you'll have to >>> either do .NET apps or really simple GUI C++ apps. >> >> Neither MFC nor ATL... >> >> I think this was not a wise move for Microsoft, because the lack of MFC >> and ATL would push people using VC++ Express to experiment and learn >> open-source libraries like wxWidgets... >> What Nokia/QT should be doing now is grab the opportunity and provide a drop-in installer for QT development that Just Works with VS2010Express. >> Giovanni >> >> > > Or newfangled MS stuff like C# :-) Hmm ... I thought you can't do C# in VS2010 C++Express, I thought you need to separately install C#Express? Not very straightforward, that. br, Martin
From: BobF on 26 May 2010 08:47 On 5/26/2010 6:57 AM, Martin B. wrote: > BobF wrote: >> On 5/26/2010 4:42 AM, Giovanni Dicanio wrote: >>> >>> "Tom Serface" <tom(a)camaswood.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Remember though... no MFC with the Express version so you'll have to >>>> either do .NET apps or really simple GUI C++ apps. >>> >>> Neither MFC nor ATL... >>> >>> I think this was not a wise move for Microsoft, because the lack of MFC >>> and ATL would push people using VC++ Express to experiment and learn >>> open-source libraries like wxWidgets... >>> > > What Nokia/QT should be doing now is grab the opportunity and provide a > drop-in installer for QT development that Just Works with VS2010Express. > >>> Giovanni >>> >>> >> >> Or newfangled MS stuff like C# :-) > > Hmm ... I thought you can't do C# in VS2010 C++Express, I thought you > need to separately install C#Express? > Not very straightforward, that. > > br, > Martin True, it is a separate install. Once you get frustrated trying to do GUI apps with C++ w/o MFC/ATL, the C# installer seems simple and straight-forward! ;-)
From: David Ching on 26 May 2010 11:22 "Martin B." <0xCDCDCDCD(a)gmx.at> wrote in message news:htj2b5$vk2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > What Nokia/QT should be doing now is grab the opportunity and provide a > drop-in installer for QT development that Just Works with VS2010Express. > They already have a great add-on for VS2005/2008 (and one coming for VS2010) that Just Works. It adds new project types and launches the Designer for ..ui files, etc. It knows how to precompile with MOC and makes everything really seemless. Unfortunately, due to MS crippling of Express products by not allowing add-ons, you need a purchased version of VC++ for this. But this is due to MS, not Nokia. -- David
From: Oliver Regenfelder on 26 May 2010 12:44
Hello, Tom Serface wrote: > Remember though... no MFC with the Express version so you'll have to > either do .NET apps or really simple GUI C++ apps. You can always use one of the open source GUI toolkits. Especially QT comes to mind. Which - if you have the option to choose - I would really suggest to do in case you need C++ GUI stuff. Best regards, Oliver |