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From: Ron A. on 14 Apr 2010 19:59 I need help in creating a solid table structure for tracking vehicle waivers. I posted this before, but I cannot find the related post. I will try to give as much detail as possible. Scenario: A vehicle maintenance shop needs to keep track of all items on a vehicle that will not be repaired due to cost effectiveness, non safety related or cosmetic items (minor dents and scratches, cracks in the dash, non-essential light inop and so on). These items that will not be repaired are waivered on a form that is kept in the vehicle. It is also the maintenance shops responsibility to send a report quarterly to each vehicle control officer of all waivered items for their vehicles. Details: Vehicles are assigned to a unit and each unit is designated by a master code. Each unit can have offices assigned and they are designated by a sub-code. In addition, the master code can also be used as a sub-code (i.e. Civil Engineering is master and shop within, like, A/C, water, roads and grounds are subs). Each unit has a vehicle control officer assigned to it who will receive the quarterly waiver report for their unit. Each vehicle is assigned a unique registration number and waivered items are strictly unique to each vehicle. Here is what I have so far: tblOrgs: MasterID (PK) MasterOrgCode OrgName Address UserCode1 UserCode2 UserCode3 UserCode4 UserCode6 UserCode7 UserCode8 tblUsers: UserID (PK) UserCode MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs UserName VCOID (FK) from tblVCO tblVCO: VCOID (PK) MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs VCOName Phone tblVehicle: VehicleID (PK) RegNumber MGMTCode UserID (FK) from tblUsers tblWaiver: WaiverID (PK) VehID (FK) from tblVehicle WaiverDate ItemWaived Initials (FK) from tblInitials tblInitials: InitialID (PK) NameLast NameFirst ManNO Initials I hope I gave enough info and thanks for taking the time to dredge through this. -- Ron A.
From: BruceM via AccessMonster.com on 15 Apr 2010 11:11 Is an Org the same as a Unit? UserCode1, etc. should not be in the table. I assume those are the waived items, but whatever they are, they should be stored in a related table. I assume the word is supposed to be "officers" in "Each unit can have offices assigned." There should be an Officers table, as each entity should be stored in its own table. If an officer may be assigned to more than one unit, there needs to be a junction table between tblUnit and tblOfficer (the unit and officer tables). tblUnit UnitID UnitName etc. tblOfficer OfficerID FirstName etc. tblUnitOfficer UnitID OfficerID Other fields for data about a specific officer assigned to a specific unit tblVehicle VehicleID (PK) UnitID RegNumber tblWaivedItem WaivedID VehicleID ItemDescription Each Unit (or Org?) may have several vehicles, each of which may have several waived items. Each Unit may have several Officers, but is there a direct connection between Officers and Vehicles? These are some very general thoughts. The meaning of master code, sub-code, and some other fields is not always clear. Ron A. wrote: >I need help in creating a solid table structure for tracking vehicle waivers. >I posted this before, but I cannot find the related post. I will try to give >as much detail as possible. > > Scenario: A vehicle maintenance shop needs to keep track of all items >on a vehicle that will not be repaired due to cost effectiveness, non safety >related or cosmetic items (minor dents and scratches, cracks in the dash, >non-essential light inop and so on). These items that will not be repaired >are waivered on a form that is kept in the vehicle. It is also the >maintenance shops responsibility to send a report quarterly to each vehicle >control officer of all waivered items for their vehicles. > > Details: Vehicles are assigned to a unit and each unit is designated by >a master code. Each unit can have offices assigned and they are designated by >a sub-code. In addition, the master code can also be used as a sub-code (i.e. >Civil Engineering is master and shop within, like, A/C, water, roads and >grounds are subs). > > Each unit has a vehicle control officer assigned to it who will receive >the quarterly waiver report for their unit. > > Each vehicle is assigned a unique registration number and waivered >items are strictly unique to each vehicle. > > Here is what I have so far: > >tblOrgs: >MasterID (PK) >MasterOrgCode >OrgName >Address >UserCode1 >UserCode2 >UserCode3 >UserCode4 >UserCode6 >UserCode7 >UserCode8 > >tblUsers: >UserID (PK) >UserCode >MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs >UserName >VCOID (FK) from tblVCO > >tblVCO: >VCOID (PK) >MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs >VCOName >Phone > >tblVehicle: >VehicleID (PK) >RegNumber >MGMTCode >UserID (FK) from tblUsers > >tblWaiver: >WaiverID (PK) >VehID (FK) from tblVehicle >WaiverDate >ItemWaived >Initials (FK) from tblInitials > >tblInitials: >InitialID (PK) >NameLast >NameFirst >ManNO >Initials > > I hope I gave enough info and thanks for taking the time to dredge >through this. -- Message posted via AccessMonster.com http://www.accessmonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/access-tablesdbdesign/201004/1
From: KARL DEWEY on 15 Apr 2010 11:44 I do not know how you use the UserCode so I would not include it. Users do not have a VCO so I would remove it from the tblUsers. Vehicles have VCO so I would add it to tblVehicle. I would not use Initals but would have InitialID in tblWaiver. I would add EstEndDate and EndDate in tblWaiver. I do not know how you use the ManNO so I would not include it nor Initials. -- Build a little, test a little. "Ron A." wrote: > I need help in creating a solid table structure for tracking vehicle waivers. > I posted this before, but I cannot find the related post. I will try to give > as much detail as possible. > > Scenario: A vehicle maintenance shop needs to keep track of all items > on a vehicle that will not be repaired due to cost effectiveness, non safety > related or cosmetic items (minor dents and scratches, cracks in the dash, > non-essential light inop and so on). These items that will not be repaired > are waivered on a form that is kept in the vehicle. It is also the > maintenance shops responsibility to send a report quarterly to each vehicle > control officer of all waivered items for their vehicles. > > Details: Vehicles are assigned to a unit and each unit is designated by > a master code. Each unit can have offices assigned and they are designated by > a sub-code. In addition, the master code can also be used as a sub-code (i.e. > Civil Engineering is master and shop within, like, A/C, water, roads and > grounds are subs). > > Each unit has a vehicle control officer assigned to it who will receive > the quarterly waiver report for their unit. > > Each vehicle is assigned a unique registration number and waivered > items are strictly unique to each vehicle. > > Here is what I have so far: > > > tblOrgs: > MasterID (PK) > MasterOrgCode > OrgName > Address > UserCode1 > UserCode2 > UserCode3 > UserCode4 > UserCode6 > UserCode7 > UserCode8 > > tblUsers: > UserID (PK) > UserCode > MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs > UserName > VCOID (FK) from tblVCO > > tblVCO: > VCOID (PK) > MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs > VCOName > Phone > > tblVehicle: > VehicleID (PK) > RegNumber > MGMTCode > UserID (FK) from tblUsers > > tblWaiver: > WaiverID (PK) > VehID (FK) from tblVehicle > WaiverDate > ItemWaived > Initials (FK) from tblInitials > > tblInitials: > InitialID (PK) > NameLast > NameFirst > ManNO > Initials > > I hope I gave enough info and thanks for taking the time to dredge > through this. > -- > Ron A.
From: Ron A. on 15 Apr 2010 13:16 Let me try and shed more light. Units may be misleading, so let's call them orginizations. An orginization (Org) is assigned a master org code and all of the different offices inside of the orginization is assigned a user code. These code just define who owns the vehicle and what office is actually using it day to day. Where I am finding it difficult, is the org can also be the user. That means that I may have to use the same code as the org and the user. Each org has a vehicle control officer that I want the quarterly report to go to and I only need vehicle waivers on the report for vehicles that VCO is responsible for. In addition, the initials come from the inspectors in vehicle mainteance that are authorized and are the one to waiver the item. Hope this helps -- Ron A. "BruceM via AccessMonster.com" wrote: > Is an Org the same as a Unit? > > UserCode1, etc. should not be in the table. I assume those are the waived > items, but whatever they are, they should be stored in a related table. > > I assume the word is supposed to be "officers" in "Each unit can have offices > assigned." There should be an Officers table, as each entity should be > stored in its own table. If an officer may be assigned to more than one unit, > there needs to be a junction table between tblUnit and tblOfficer (the unit > and officer tables). > > tblUnit > UnitID > UnitName > etc. > > tblOfficer > OfficerID > FirstName > etc. > > tblUnitOfficer > UnitID > OfficerID > Other fields for data about a specific officer assigned to a specific unit > > tblVehicle > VehicleID (PK) > UnitID > RegNumber > > tblWaivedItem > WaivedID > VehicleID > ItemDescription > > Each Unit (or Org?) may have several vehicles, each of which may have several > waived items. Each Unit may have several Officers, but is there a direct > connection between Officers and Vehicles? > > These are some very general thoughts. The meaning of master code, sub-code, > and some other fields is not always clear. > > Ron A. wrote: > >I need help in creating a solid table structure for tracking vehicle waivers. > >I posted this before, but I cannot find the related post. I will try to give > >as much detail as possible. > > > > Scenario: A vehicle maintenance shop needs to keep track of all items > >on a vehicle that will not be repaired due to cost effectiveness, non safety > >related or cosmetic items (minor dents and scratches, cracks in the dash, > >non-essential light inop and so on). These items that will not be repaired > >are waivered on a form that is kept in the vehicle. It is also the > >maintenance shops responsibility to send a report quarterly to each vehicle > >control officer of all waivered items for their vehicles. > > > > Details: Vehicles are assigned to a unit and each unit is designated by > >a master code. Each unit can have offices assigned and they are designated by > >a sub-code. In addition, the master code can also be used as a sub-code (i.e. > >Civil Engineering is master and shop within, like, A/C, water, roads and > >grounds are subs). > > > > Each unit has a vehicle control officer assigned to it who will receive > >the quarterly waiver report for their unit. > > > > Each vehicle is assigned a unique registration number and waivered > >items are strictly unique to each vehicle. > > > > Here is what I have so far: > > > >tblOrgs: > >MasterID (PK) > >MasterOrgCode > >OrgName > >Address > >UserCode1 > >UserCode2 > >UserCode3 > >UserCode4 > >UserCode6 > >UserCode7 > >UserCode8 > > > >tblUsers: > >UserID (PK) > >UserCode > >MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs > >UserName > >VCOID (FK) from tblVCO > > > >tblVCO: > >VCOID (PK) > >MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs > >VCOName > >Phone > > > >tblVehicle: > >VehicleID (PK) > >RegNumber > >MGMTCode > >UserID (FK) from tblUsers > > > >tblWaiver: > >WaiverID (PK) > >VehID (FK) from tblVehicle > >WaiverDate > >ItemWaived > >Initials (FK) from tblInitials > > > >tblInitials: > >InitialID (PK) > >NameLast > >NameFirst > >ManNO > >Initials > > > > I hope I gave enough info and thanks for taking the time to dredge > >through this. > > -- > Message posted via AccessMonster.com > http://www.accessmonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/access-tablesdbdesign/201004/1 > > . >
From: Ron A. on 15 Apr 2010 13:22 I forgot to say that the usercode 1 thru 8 in the tblOrg are foreign Keys from tblUsers/UserID. I did this becaue 1 Orginization can have many users within it. -- Aloha, Ron A. "Ron A." wrote: > Let me try and shed more light. Units may be misleading, so let's call them > orginizations. An orginization (Org) is assigned a master org code and all of > the different offices inside of the orginization is assigned a user code. > These code just define who owns the vehicle and what office is actually using > it day to day. > > Where I am finding it difficult, is the org can also be the user. That means > that I may have to use the same code as the org and the user. > > Each org has a vehicle control officer that I want the quarterly report to > go to and I only need vehicle waivers on the report for vehicles that VCO is > responsible for. In addition, the initials come from the inspectors in > vehicle mainteance that are authorized and are the one to waiver the item. > > Hope this helps > -- > Ron A. > > > "BruceM via AccessMonster.com" wrote: > > > Is an Org the same as a Unit? > > > > UserCode1, etc. should not be in the table. I assume those are the waived > > items, but whatever they are, they should be stored in a related table. > > > > I assume the word is supposed to be "officers" in "Each unit can have offices > > assigned." There should be an Officers table, as each entity should be > > stored in its own table. If an officer may be assigned to more than one unit, > > there needs to be a junction table between tblUnit and tblOfficer (the unit > > and officer tables). > > > > tblUnit > > UnitID > > UnitName > > etc. > > > > tblOfficer > > OfficerID > > FirstName > > etc. > > > > tblUnitOfficer > > UnitID > > OfficerID > > Other fields for data about a specific officer assigned to a specific unit > > > > tblVehicle > > VehicleID (PK) > > UnitID > > RegNumber > > > > tblWaivedItem > > WaivedID > > VehicleID > > ItemDescription > > > > Each Unit (or Org?) may have several vehicles, each of which may have several > > waived items. Each Unit may have several Officers, but is there a direct > > connection between Officers and Vehicles? > > > > These are some very general thoughts. The meaning of master code, sub-code, > > and some other fields is not always clear. > > > > Ron A. wrote: > > >I need help in creating a solid table structure for tracking vehicle waivers. > > >I posted this before, but I cannot find the related post. I will try to give > > >as much detail as possible. > > > > > > Scenario: A vehicle maintenance shop needs to keep track of all items > > >on a vehicle that will not be repaired due to cost effectiveness, non safety > > >related or cosmetic items (minor dents and scratches, cracks in the dash, > > >non-essential light inop and so on). These items that will not be repaired > > >are waivered on a form that is kept in the vehicle. It is also the > > >maintenance shops responsibility to send a report quarterly to each vehicle > > >control officer of all waivered items for their vehicles. > > > > > > Details: Vehicles are assigned to a unit and each unit is designated by > > >a master code. Each unit can have offices assigned and they are designated by > > >a sub-code. In addition, the master code can also be used as a sub-code (i.e. > > >Civil Engineering is master and shop within, like, A/C, water, roads and > > >grounds are subs). > > > > > > Each unit has a vehicle control officer assigned to it who will receive > > >the quarterly waiver report for their unit. > > > > > > Each vehicle is assigned a unique registration number and waivered > > >items are strictly unique to each vehicle. > > > > > > Here is what I have so far: > > > > > >tblOrgs: > > >MasterID (PK) > > >MasterOrgCode > > >OrgName > > >Address > > >UserCode1 > > >UserCode2 > > >UserCode3 > > >UserCode4 > > >UserCode6 > > >UserCode7 > > >UserCode8 > > > > > >tblUsers: > > >UserID (PK) > > >UserCode > > >MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs > > >UserName > > >VCOID (FK) from tblVCO > > > > > >tblVCO: > > >VCOID (PK) > > >MasterID (FK) from tblOrgs > > >VCOName > > >Phone > > > > > >tblVehicle: > > >VehicleID (PK) > > >RegNumber > > >MGMTCode > > >UserID (FK) from tblUsers > > > > > >tblWaiver: > > >WaiverID (PK) > > >VehID (FK) from tblVehicle > > >WaiverDate > > >ItemWaived > > >Initials (FK) from tblInitials > > > > > >tblInitials: > > >InitialID (PK) > > >NameLast > > >NameFirst > > >ManNO > > >Initials > > > > > > I hope I gave enough info and thanks for taking the time to dredge > > >through this. > > > > -- > > Message posted via AccessMonster.com > > http://www.accessmonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/access-tablesdbdesign/201004/1 > > > > . > >
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