What is the Aether?
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From: Laurent on 24 May 2007 17:31 The aether is simply the space between two points. David Bohm called it general space as he said space is what unite us, not what separates us. Mach called it momentum space as he explained the force of Inertia. Einstein and others like called it free space as they explained permeability and permittivity. So there is no question the aether is, it is the empty space between points, the question is, does it have physical properties? Einstein maintained it did until the day he died. --- Whether you can call it God or not would depend on what you think God is. To me God was a thing incapable of thinking or feeling until matter and brains came into existence. Besides that, many, like Buddhists for example, call it Consciousness, others call it Mind, but they are all referring to same THING I am talking about, a universal being. The aether, like God, is omnipresent, eternal, with no beginning and no end. The aether is the seat of the field, and without fields there would be no universe, right? Therefore, it is the source of everything there is. David Chalmers likes to ask - what is that which is? - he calls this "the hard problem", and the answer is, the aether is that which is. Why? Because it is immutable, it is now what it always was, and there is nothing in this universe that you can say that about, simply because matter is in constant change, what was five seconds ago, is not anymore. -- Laurent
From: Sam Wormley on 24 May 2007 17:54 Laurent wrote: > The aether is simply the space between two points. David Bohm called > it general space as he said space is what unite us, not what separates > us. Mach called it momentum space as he explained the force of > Inertia. Einstein and others like called it free space as they > explained permeability and permittivity. So there is no question the > aether is, it is the empty space between points, the question is, does > it have physical properties? Einstein maintained it did until the day > he died. > aether o current and successful theories don't require an aether o none is detectable o no properties are ascribed or measured o it's a dead concept
From: xxein on 24 May 2007 18:45 On May 24, 5:54 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Laurent wrote: > > The aether is simply the space between two points. David Bohm called > > it general space as he said space is what unite us, not what separates > > us. Mach called it momentum space as he explained the force of > > Inertia. Einstein and others like called it free space as they > > explained permeability and permittivity. So there is no question the > > aether is, it is the empty space between points, the question is, does > > it have physical properties? Einstein maintained it did until the day > > he died. > > aether > o current and successful theories don't require an aether > o none is detectable > o no properties are ascribed or measured > o it's a dead concept xxein: aether ' current and successful theories are limited to a subjective measurement (of what?) ' empty space cannot define position, velocity, nor acceleration without a connection through a media ' then we see and measure nothing ' Your brain is dead
From: Eric Gisse on 24 May 2007 18:55 On May 24, 2:31 pm, Laurent <cyberd...(a)gmail.com> wrote: [...] The aether is a concept accepted by those whose knowledge of physics ranges from "none" to "very little".
From: Eric Gisse on 24 May 2007 19:08
On May 24, 3:45 pm, x...(a)bellsouth.net wrote: > On May 24, 5:54 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > > > Laurent wrote: > > > The aether is simply the space between two points. David Bohm called > > > it general space as he said space is what unite us, not what separates > > > us. Mach called it momentum space as he explained the force of > > > Inertia. Einstein and others like called it free space as they > > > explained permeability and permittivity. So there is no question the > > > aether is, it is the empty space between points, the question is, does > > > it have physical properties? Einstein maintained it did until the day > > > he died. > > > aether > > o current and successful theories don't require an aether > > o none is detectable > > o no properties are ascribed or measured > > o it's a dead concept > > xxein: aether > ' current and successful theories are limited to a subjective > measurement (of what?) > ' empty space cannot define position, velocity, nor > acceleration without a > connection through a media A limitation only on your part. Tell me, what is your current level of education in physics? > ' then we see and measure nothing > ' Your brain is dead |