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From: Steven D'Aprano on 8 Aug 2010 20:51
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:15:45 -0700, W. eWatson wrote:

> To suggest Google as above, makes no sense to me. This is the place to
> ask, as another poster stated.

He may have stated it, but the evidence suggests he's wrong. You're
asking a question about the details of the installers used specifically
by scipy and matplotlib. Most people here have no idea about that, hence
the lack of useful answers. The best likelihood of finding a solution is
to go to a specialist forum, not a generic one.

In any case, suggesting Google is *always* relevant. You gave us no
reason at all to think that you had made any effort to solve the problem
yourself before asking for us to volunteer our time. That's rude. Did you
google for "uninstall scipy" before asking for help? Did you make any
effort to read the Scipy manual first? Did you make any effort *at all*?
If you had -- and for all we know, you might have spent days trying to
solve this, or 3 seconds, or anything in between -- you didn't say so.

Suggesting that you do some googling is absolutely relevant.

Perhaps it's about time that we point you at this:

http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I don't agree with everything the author says, but the basic position is
about right.



--
Steven
From: John Nagle on 9 Aug 2010 01:50
On 8/8/2010 9:51 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 08/08/2010 17:16, W. eWatson wrote:
>> See Subject. I use matplotlib, scipy, numpy and possibly one other
>> module. If I go to the control panel, I only see numpy listed. Why? I
>> use a search and find only numpy and Python itself. How can matplotlib
>> and scipy be uninstalled?
>
> Have you heard of google?
>
> Mark Lawrence.

It's a legitimate question. It might be framed as "why does Python
package management not play well with the platform's package management
system?" Which is a reasonable enough question. On Windows, some
packages play well with Add/Remove programs, and some don't. On
Linux, some packages play well with Yum, and some don't.

The basic answer is that nobody is in charge. There's nobody
even trying to herd the third-party modules. Unlike CPAN, which
has standards for Perl packages and some level of quality
control, PyPi is just a link farm.

John Nagle
From: Martin v. Loewis on 9 Aug 2010 02:01
> The basic answer is that nobody is in charge. There's nobody
> even trying to herd the third-party modules. Unlike CPAN, which
> has standards for Perl packages and some level of quality
> control, PyPi is just a link farm.

Do the standards of CPAN also include uninstallation?

To my knowledge, they don't: so how does it help to have standards,
wrt. to the OP's question?

Regards,
Martin
From: Christoph Gohlke on 9 Aug 2010 02:30
On Aug 8, 9:54 pm, "W. eWatson" <wolftra...(a)invalid.com> wrote:
> On 8/8/2010 5:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:15:45 -0700, W. eWatson wrote:
>
> >> To suggest Google as above, makes no sense to me. This is the place to
> >> ask, as another poster stated.
>
> > He may have stated it, but the evidence suggests he's wrong. You're
> > asking a question about the details of the installers used specifically
> > by scipy andmatplotlib. Most people here have no idea about that, hence
> > the lack of useful answers. The best likelihood of finding a solution is
> > to go to a specialist forum, not a generic one.
>
> > In any case, suggesting Google is *always* relevant. You gave us no
> > reason at all to think that you had made any effort to solve the problem
> > yourself before asking for us to volunteer our time. That's rude. Did you
> > google for "uninstall scipy" before asking for help? Did you make any
> > effort to read the Scipy manual first? Did you make any effort *at all*?
> > If you had -- and for all we know, you might have spent days trying to
> > solve this, or 3 seconds, or anything in between -- you didn't say so.
>
> > Suggesting that you do some googling is absolutely relevant.
>
> > Perhaps it's about time that we point you at this:
>
> >http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> > Idon'tagree with everything the author says, but the basic position is
> > about right.
>
> For the last few hours, I've been on the scipy and numpy mail list, per
> a suggestion. No one seems to really understand uninstall there.

Well. Your question has been answered on Numpy-discussion in February
and again today on SciPy-users.

> I think
> Ben Caplan may have it right. You and I need go no further with this. We
> disagree--again.
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