assigning multi-line strings to variables
in [Python]
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From: Lie Ryan on 30 Apr 2010 15:40 On 05/01/10 04:08, Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2010-04-30, Lie Ryan <lie.1296(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Use triple-quoted, let them flow, done. I've never heard of any >> text editor in current use without text wrapping capability, >> even Notepad has it. And if I've got 5k of text in source code >> without line breaks I wouldn't want that silly string to >> disturb my view of the code. You argument aren't even >> convincing. >> >> Perhaps you like to do it the hard way, I don't. > > Arguing about how to write 5k of text into your code is about as > sensible as arguing about how to stuff a potato into the tailpipe > of your Chevrolet. > >> The point is, what you're suggesting doesn't save work at all >> as you've shown it. There are other ways to do the same thing, >> for virtually no work at all. > > Don't put big text dumps in your program. Problem solved! > Alf suggested it, not me.
From: Lie Ryan on 30 Apr 2010 15:43 On 05/01/10 03:56, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >> >> Use triple-quoted, let them flow, done. I've never heard of any text >> editor in current use without text wrapping capability, even Notepad has >> it. And if I've got 5k of text in source code without line breaks I >> wouldn't want that silly string to disturb my view of the code. You >> argument aren't even convincing. > > You'd put a 5K line in your source code, + you're working with text > wrapping in your editor. In the other hand, you'd put a 5K line in your source code, + you're writing, debugging, and running a script to wrap and put various escapes for quotes and newlines, + you need to figure out how to force that script to accept your 5k string.
From: Lie Ryan on 30 Apr 2010 15:46 On 05/01/10 05:43, Lie Ryan wrote: > On 05/01/10 03:56, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >>> >>> Use triple-quoted, let them flow, done. I've never heard of any text >>> editor in current use without text wrapping capability, even Notepad has >>> it. And if I've got 5k of text in source code without line breaks I >>> wouldn't want that silly string to disturb my view of the code. You >>> argument aren't even convincing. >> >> You'd put a 5K line in your source code, + you're working with text >> wrapping in your editor. > > In the other hand, you'd put a 5K line in your source code, + you're > writing, debugging, and running a script to wrap and put various escapes > for quotes and newlines, + you need to figure out how to force that > script to accept your 5k string. + now your chunk is in obfuscated form with various quote noise, unnecessary escape characters and the like.
From: Alf P. Steinbach on 30 Apr 2010 17:54 On 30.04.2010 21:46, * Lie Ryan: > On 05/01/10 05:43, Lie Ryan wrote: >> On 05/01/10 03:56, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >>>> >>>> Use triple-quoted, let them flow, done. I've never heard of any text >>>> editor in current use without text wrapping capability, even Notepad has >>>> it. And if I've got 5k of text in source code without line breaks I >>>> wouldn't want that silly string to disturb my view of the code. You >>>> argument aren't even convincing. >>> >>> You'd put a 5K line in your source code, + you're working with text >>> wrapping in your editor. >> >> In the other hand, you'd put a 5K line in your source code, + you're >> writing, debugging, and running a script to wrap and put various escapes >> for quotes and newlines, + you need to figure out how to force that >> script to accept your 5k string. > > + now your chunk is in obfuscated form with various quote noise, > unnecessary escape characters and the like. Personally, for Python I'd put such text in a separate text file, as I recommended first of all in the posting you've reacted so negatively to. Cheers & hth., - Alf
From: Alf P. Steinbach on 30 Apr 2010 18:03
On 30.04.2010 21:40, * Lie Ryan: > On 05/01/10 04:08, Neil Cerutti wrote: >> On 2010-04-30, Lie Ryan<lie.1296(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Use triple-quoted, let them flow, done. I've never heard of any >>> text editor in current use without text wrapping capability, >>> even Notepad has it. And if I've got 5k of text in source code >>> without line breaks I wouldn't want that silly string to >>> disturb my view of the code. You argument aren't even >>> convincing. >>> >>> Perhaps you like to do it the hard way, I don't. >> >> Arguing about how to write 5k of text into your code is about as >> sensible as arguing about how to stuff a potato into the tailpipe >> of your Chevrolet. >> >>> The point is, what you're suggesting doesn't save work at all >>> as you've shown it. There are other ways to do the same thing, >>> for virtually no work at all. >> >> Don't put big text dumps in your program. Problem solved! >> > > Alf suggested it, not me. On the contrary, I responded to you on the 30th, using a concrete example of your triple-quote literals rationale posted on the 29th, that ... <quote author="Lie Ryan"> Yes, apparently my statement that implicit concatenation is an artifact is erroneous but it doesn't make the important points less true, that implicit concatenation is not suitable for integrating large chunk of text into source code. </quote .... but I may have misunderstood what you meant by "large". Anyway, if you read my first posting in this thread you'll see that the first thing I suggested is to put the text in a separate text file. I didn't discuss rationales for choosing this or that method because where it isn't personal preference it's rather obvious. ;-) Cheers & hth, - Alf |