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From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 27 Sep 2009 00:17
I'm not sure that would help. Em dashes are already nonbreaking *before*;
it's only after the em dash that you can get a break, and inserting the
nonbreak wouldn't help there, either, I suspect, though I haven't tested it.

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"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" <u43222(a)uwe> wrote in message
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> You could also insert a no-width nonbreak (from the Symbol dialog >
> Special
> characters tab) before the em dash. You can also make a shortcut for it.
>
> Pam
>
> MinervaReef wrote:
>>In dialogue the speaker is interrupted and so I end the sentence with an
>>em
>>dash followed by smart quotes (correct according to Chicago Manual of
>>Style).
>> I have this situation throughout my novel, but in one or two cases when
>> the
>>em dash just happens to be at the very end of the line, it breaks the line
>>and orphans the quotes by themselves on the next line. This would appear
>>to
>>be a bug in Word 2003.
>>
>>Anyone have a solution, other than re-writing the dialogue?
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From: MinervaReef on 27 Sep 2009 00:57
I tried the double minus signs and they did look good in TNR 12, however my
novel is set in 11pt Georgia and they separated when I converted to that
font. The CTRL-Shift+- seemed to work well. I'm not sure I yet fully
understand how to implement Pam's suggestion. All three of you are testing
the limits of my experience with the finer points of Word. Pam if you could
give me just a tad more detail, I'd like to try your suggestion, too. Thanks
to all of you.



From: Pesach Shelnitz on 27 Sep 2009 04:19
Hi,

The horizontal bar (hexadecimal Unicode 2015), which is nearly identical to
an em dash, is a nonbreaking character and can serve as a nonbreaking em
dash.

The no-width non-break (zero width joiner) unfortunately does not work with
an em dash, and all the other suggestions of combining other characters
invariably run into problems when you use different fonts and different font
sizes.

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Hope this helps,
Pesach Shelnitz


"MinervaReef" wrote:

> I tried the double minus signs and they did look good in TNR 12, however my
> novel is set in 11pt Georgia and they separated when I converted to that
> font. The CTRL-Shift+- seemed to work well. I'm not sure I yet fully
> understand how to implement Pam's suggestion. All three of you are testing
> the limits of my experience with the finer points of Word. Pam if you could
> give me just a tad more detail, I'd like to try your suggestion, too. Thanks
> to all of you.
>
>
>
From: Peter T. Daniels on 27 Sep 2009 08:43
"Horizontal bar" is somewhat longer than an em-dash, and in some fonts
is at a different height from the em-dash. According to the Unicode
manual, it's intended for introducing dialogue in the French fashion
(which accounts for its nonbreaking status). It is found in many,
though not all, typical text fonts.

On Sep 27, 4:19 am, Pesach Shelnitz <pesach18(AT)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The horizontal bar (hexadecimal Unicode 2015), which is nearly identical to
> an em dash, is a nonbreaking character and can serve as a nonbreaking em
> dash.
>
> The no-width non-break (zero width joiner) unfortunately does not work with
> an em dash, and all the other suggestions of combining other characters
> invariably run into problems when you use different fonts and different font
> sizes.
>
> --
> Hope this helps,
> Pesach Shelnitz
>
>
>
> "MinervaReef" wrote:
> > I tried the double minus signs and they did look good in TNR 12, however my
> > novel is set in 11pt Georgia and they separated when I converted to that
> > font.  The CTRL-Shift+- seemed to work well.  I'm not sure I yet fully
> > understand how to implement Pam's suggestion.  All three of you are testing
> > the limits of my experience with the finer points of Word.   Pam if you could
> > give me just a tad more detail, I'd like to try your suggestion, too.  Thanks
> > to all of you.-
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 27 Sep 2009 09:27
In Georgia you would need to condense the minus signs by more than 0.6 pt.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"MinervaReef" <MinervaReef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9994A007-692F-43AA-ADC8-3EFD39A5A529(a)microsoft.com...
>I tried the double minus signs and they did look good in TNR 12, however my
> novel is set in 11pt Georgia and they separated when I converted to that
> font. The CTRL-Shift+- seemed to work well. I'm not sure I yet fully
> understand how to implement Pam's suggestion. All three of you are
> testing
> the limits of my experience with the finer points of Word. Pam if you
> could
> give me just a tad more detail, I'd like to try your suggestion, too.
> Thanks
> to all of you.
>
>
>
>

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