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From: Rick Merrill on 25 Feb 2010 09:35
EVERY time i let microsoft 'updates' be installed
on an old Toshiba laptop with Windows XP sp3 it takes
several (2 or 3) remove-the-power and restart before
I can get it to (a) shutdown and (b) reboot.

If after an update i 'restore' there is no problem - of
course then the updates want a do-over!

Is the only option to never load an 'update?"

From: DL on 25 Feb 2010 10:17
There are updates & there are updates, and since you don't mention what
update, who knows what to recommend

"Rick Merrill" <Rick0.merrill(a)gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> EVERY time i let microsoft 'updates' be installed
> on an old Toshiba laptop with Windows XP sp3 it takes
> several (2 or 3) remove-the-power and restart before
> I can get it to (a) shutdown and (b) reboot.
>
> If after an update i 'restore' there is no problem - of
> course then the updates want a do-over!
>
> Is the only option to never load an 'update?"
>


From: Unknown on 25 Feb 2010 11:44
If you are updating directly from Microsoft, then shut down all your virus
programs before updating.
Think about deleting all of them and install MSE. (Microsoft Security
Essentials)
"Rick Merrill" <Rick0.merrill(a)gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> EVERY time i let microsoft 'updates' be installed
> on an old Toshiba laptop with Windows XP sp3 it takes
> several (2 or 3) remove-the-power and restart before
> I can get it to (a) shutdown and (b) reboot.
>
> If after an update i 'restore' there is no problem - of
> course then the updates want a do-over!
>
> Is the only option to never load an 'update?"
>


From: Rick Merrill on 25 Feb 2010 14:05
Unknown wrote:
> If you are updating directly from Microsoft, then shut down all your virus
> programs before updating.

I only dl from ms, and I have tried closeing all AV, but it hasn't
seemed to work (unscientific sample).


> Think about deleting all of them and install MSE. (Microsoft Security
> Essentials)

Ok. That sounds reasonable.


> "Rick Merrill"<Rick0.merrill(a)gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OoNhJfitKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> EVERY time i let microsoft 'updates' be installed
>> on an old Toshiba laptop with Windows XP sp3 it takes
>> several (2 or 3) remove-the-power and restart before
>> I can get it to (a) shutdown and (b) reboot.
>>
>> If after an update i 'restore' there is no problem - of
>> course then the updates want a do-over!
>>
>> Is [my] only option to never load an 'update?"
From: Unknown on 25 Feb 2010 14:10
What firewall are you using? Try the Windows firewall..
"Rick Merrill" <Rick0.merrill(a)gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Unknown wrote:
>> If you are updating directly from Microsoft, then shut down all your
>> virus
>> programs before updating.
>
> I only dl from ms, and I have tried closeing all AV, but it hasn't
> seemed to work (unscientific sample).
>
>
>> Think about deleting all of them and install MSE. (Microsoft Security
>> Essentials)
>
> Ok. That sounds reasonable.
>
>
>> "Rick Merrill"<Rick0.merrill(a)gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OoNhJfitKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> EVERY time i let microsoft 'updates' be installed
>>> on an old Toshiba laptop with Windows XP sp3 it takes
>>> several (2 or 3) remove-the-power and restart before
>>> I can get it to (a) shutdown and (b) reboot.
>>>
>>> If after an update i 'restore' there is no problem - of
>>> course then the updates want a do-over!
>>>
>>> Is [my] only option to never load an 'update?"


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