From: Daddy on
On 7/28/2010 3:21 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote:
> Daddy<daddy(a)invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 7/28/2010 1:57 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my
>>> son's college computer.
>>>
>>> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student
>>> version of Win 7 64 bit?
>>>
>>> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able
>>> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it
>>> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one
>>> printer?
>>>
>>> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions
>>> I should be asking?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The 'student versions' of Windows are identical in every way to the
>> software you can buy in a store; they just cost less. Keep in mind
>> that these are upgrade versions.
>>
>> You'll need 64-bit drivers for 64-bit Windows, but 64-bit drivers are
>> available for most any hardware that you can buy today.
>>
>> Why do you need to install Windows from scratch?
>
> The computer would come with a 32-bit OS (Probably XP, as if you get
> the "Downgrade to XP" option you can get media. So I would install
> the 64 bit version clean. Which I have not done before...
>
> Thanks,
>
>

1- You can only install 64-bit Windows on a computer with 64-bit hardware.

2- As I said, the student version is an upgrade, and 32-bit Windows
can't be upgraded to 64-bit Windows.

3- In any case, why do you want to 'upgrade' to x64? What do you hope to
gain vs. x86 Windows?

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Daddy
From: ahall on
Daddy <daddy(a)invalid.invalid> writes:

> On 7/28/2010 3:21 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote:
> > Daddy<daddy(a)invalid.invalid> writes:
> >
> >> On 7/28/2010 1:57 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my
> >>> son's college computer.
> >>>
> >>> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student
> >>> version of Win 7 64 bit?
> >>>
> >>> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able
> >>> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it
> >>> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one
> >>> printer?
> >>>
> >>> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions
> >>> I should be asking?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> The 'student versions' of Windows are identical in every way to the
> >> software you can buy in a store; they just cost less. Keep in mind
> >> that these are upgrade versions.
> >>
> >> You'll need 64-bit drivers for 64-bit Windows, but 64-bit drivers are
> >> available for most any hardware that you can buy today.
> >>
> >> Why do you need to install Windows from scratch?
> >
> > The computer would come with a 32-bit OS (Probably XP, as if you get
> > the "Downgrade to XP" option you can get media. So I would install
> > the 64 bit version clean. Which I have not done before...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
>
> 1- You can only install 64-bit Windows on a computer with 64-bit hardware.
>
> 2- As I said, the student version is an upgrade, and 32-bit Windows
> can't be upgraded to 64-bit Windows.

Ahh, I did not know that. Deal killer.

> 3- In any case, why do you want to 'upgrade' to x64? What do you hope
> to gain vs. x86 Windows?

Primarily being able to use extra memory for photo and video editing.

Thanks,


--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...)
From: dg1261 on
<ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com> wrote in news:kpg62zzl35c.fsf(a)panix1.panix.com:

>> 2- As I said, the student version is an upgrade, and 32-bit Windows
>> can't be upgraded to 64-bit Windows.
>
> Ahh, I did not know that. Deal killer.
>


However, you can accomplish what you want by clean-installing Win7 from the
upgrade media. See
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp .

Back in December the student versions of Win7 were $29, so I was upgrading
a whole bunch of XP and Vista computers for students using Thurrott's
method.


From: Christopher Muto on
ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote:
> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my
> son's college computer.
>
> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student
> version of Win 7 64 bit?
>
> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able
> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it
> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one
> printer?
>
> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions
> I should be asking?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>

it is probably a good idea to contact your sons college and talk to the
college store or computer center. they often have package deals that
are very complete machines with full warranties for students. most
colleges align themselves with a particular vendor or two which often
means they have an on site tech with replacements parts at the ready
which greatly reduces down time.

the caveats of windows 7 64 are most commonly lack of compatibility with
older printers (must check the availability of drivers for your
make/model printer or simply resign to buying a new one) and with
certain vpn software products (vpn is used to connect remote computers
to other networks, ie office working connecting to office) but you
probably don't have to worry about that.

not sure why you are asking about the operating system and installing
it... dell doesn't sell any latitudes without operating systems.

but you should go for the academic pricing on office...
http://www.microsoft.com/student/office/en-us/

here's a good deal on the e6510
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=blcyy3y&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04

From: Al Dykes on
In article <D7mdnbPiNMF5Kc3RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote:
>> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my
>> son's college computer.
>>
>> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student
>> version of Win 7 64 bit?
>>
>> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able
>> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it
>> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one
>> printer?
>>
>> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions
>> I should be asking?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>
>it is probably a good idea to contact your sons college and talk to the
>college store or computer center. they often have package deals that
>are very complete machines with full warranties for students. most
>colleges align themselves with a particular vendor or two which often
>means they have an on site tech with replacements parts at the ready
>which greatly reduces down time.
>
>the caveats of windows 7 64 are most commonly lack of compatibility with
>older printers (must check the availability of drivers for your
>make/model printer or simply resign to buying a new one) and with
>certain vpn software products (vpn is used to connect remote computers
>to other networks, ie office working connecting to office) but you
>probably don't have to worry about that.
k

If the campus uses a vpn, they will give you the latest software. The
bookstore/computer center will give you good info.

IME, hp retail printers and scanners and AIO devices are the worst for
forward compatibility. I have a Canon scanner I have not been able to
get to work. A new and better scanner is about $60.

Photography IMO definitly indicates 64 bit windows and no less than
4GB ram. My new $600 laptop has that and I can easily edit huge files
in photoshop and photoshop elements.

--
Al Dykes
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