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From: Daave on 22 Nov 2008 10:14
Malke wrote:
> Dallas wrote:
>
>> Thanks & I know it doesn't as I wrote a disclaimer as such but
>> figured everyone has an ISP.
>>
>> 1a - as I said, I have a single line filter on the phone, which is
>> in the kitchen & no filter on the wall in the bedroom where the DSL
>> is plugged in, using a 40 foot phone line
>
> What phone line? What does the phone line have to do with your DSL?
> Perhaps you mean the special DSL cable instead.

I am sure he is referring to the telephone cable (quite long!) running
from the wall outlet to the DSL modem.

>> 1b - as i stated, w/ a single line filter on the dsl in the wall, it
>> doesn't work at with one, so i tried several & same result so i
>> removed it
>
> You need the double-line filter connected to the phone jack where the
> DSL cable goes, not a single. The DSL cable goes in one connector and
> a regular phone cable can go in the other.

I've never seen one of those. What I have is a DSL modem that has an
outgoing port for a telephone (presumably with a built-in filter). Of
course, connecting a phone to the DSL modem is optional.


From: "Dallas" Jagged on 23 Nov 2008 04:09


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Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T


"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM(a)myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message
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> Malke wrote:
>> Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks & I know it doesn't as I wrote a disclaimer as such but
>>> figured everyone has an ISP.
>>>
>>> 1a - as I said, I have a single line filter on the phone, which is
>>> in the kitchen & no filter on the wall in the bedroom where the DSL
>>> is plugged in, using a 40 foot phone line
>>
>> What phone line? What does the phone line have to do with your DSL?
>> Perhaps you mean the special DSL cable instead.
>
> I am sure he is referring to the telephone cable (quite long!) running
> from the wall outlet to the DSL modem.

yes i am daave, thanks
>
>>> 1b - as i stated, w/ a single line filter on the dsl in the wall, it
>>> doesn't work at with one, so i tried several & same result so i
>>> removed it
>>
>> You need the double-line filter connected to the phone jack where the
>> DSL cable goes, not a single. The DSL cable goes in one connector and
>> a regular phone cable can go in the other.
>
> I've never seen one of those. What I have is a DSL modem that has an
> outgoing port for a telephone (presumably with a built-in filter). Of
> course, connecting a phone to the DSL modem is optional.
>


From: "Dallas" Jagged on 23 Nov 2008 04:15


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Dallas.....

Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T


"Malke" <malke(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Dallas wrote:
>
>> Thanks & I know it doesn't as I wrote a disclaimer as such but figured
>> everyone has an ISP.
>>
>> 1a - as I said, I have a single line filter on the phone, which is in the
>> kitchen & no filter on the wall in the bedroom where the DSL is plugged
>> in, using a 40 foot phone line
>
> What phone line? What does the phone line have to do with your DSL?
> Perhaps
> you mean the special DSL cable instead.

thanks malke & as daave stated, it is the phone line running from the room
where the modem is, to the other room where the jack is.
>
>> 1b - as i stated, w/ a single line filter on the dsl in the wall, it
>> doesn't work at with one, so i tried several & same result so i removed
>> it
>
> You need the double-line filter connected to the phone jack where the DSL
> cable goes, not a single. The DSL cable goes in one connector and a
> regular
> phone cable can go in the other.

hmm, yes, i know, but as i think i said, the modem is connected to the wall
jack with no phone involved, as the only phone is to the kitchen jack
>
>> 1c - yes, i know where the Ethernet goes & i never said it's an internal
>> modem, rather, it's the Motorola 2210 modem
>>
>> 2 - see 1a
>>
>> thanks but all is as you say, except the filter allows nothing to
>> connect
>> from the bedroom jack, so i removed it & it works, when it does, or else,
>> nothing w/ the filter
>
> I'm not convinced you have this set up correctly, however it will be
> impossible to troubleshoot it without being on-site. You may also have a
> faulty phone line which will definitely cause issues with DSL. If you have
> an older house, check with your telephone company.
>
> Otherwise, either have a local computer tech come out or post in a more
> appropriate forum such as DSL Reports. This is not a Windows issue.

i know as again, everyone has an isp - thanks anyway as i made it quite
clear on more than one ocassion; a phone in the kitchen, the modem in a
bedroom, connected to a wall jack in another bedroom, so i have it hooked up
correctly.

also, it just disconnected agaion, so i tried to reset it, but no luck,
tho' when i call their service line, it usually reconnects & it did - this
is the odd part !

eot ? aok !

> Sorry, but I don't have anything further to add so EOT for me.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>


From: "Dallas" Jagged on 23 Nov 2008 04:18
thanks jd & yes, i'll not post anything else here, re: this issue

--
Dallas.....

Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T


"JD" <JD(a)example.invalid> wrote in message
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> Dallas wrote:
>> Thanks & you're right JD as it may be time; in fact, I have started
>> searching & am going to contact DirecTv as I use their satellite signal
>> for TV - it may be too much for my fixed income budget, but will check.
>>
>
> I'm not very familiar with DirectTV but it appears they use AT&T dsl? I
> wish I could help you more but this thread is really off topic for this
> newsgroup.
>
> --
> JD..


From: "Dallas" Jagged on 23 Nov 2008 04:17
thanks peter & i will try the dslreports ng & get back to you when i find
something out.

take care & stay well peter. my 3rd cancer surgery, (this one at ucla med
center) is in january as it continues to recur, after 2 surgeries & 3 heavy
doses of nuclear meds, so we'll see what this one brings.

enjoy your sunday !

--
Dallas.....

Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T


"Peter Foldes" <okf22(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dallas

This is a different newsgroup with different ways of working with what you
are used to. My mail properties has a valid email address and I encourage
you to write me and I will direct you to the right newsgroup for your issue.
One other thing .Use Plain Text here to post and attachments are not always
welcome

Hope to hear from you so as I can help you Dallas
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Dallas" <Jagged Edge(a)AnyISP.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks & I know it doesn't as I wrote a disclaimer as such but figured
> everyone has an ISP.
>
> 1a - as I said, I have a single line filter on the phone, which is in the
> kitchen & no filter on the wall in the bedroom where the DSL is plugged
> in,
> using a 40 foot phone line
>
> 1b - as i stated, w/ a single line filter on the dsl in the wall, it
> doesn't
> work at with one, so i tried several & same result so i removed it
>
> 1c - yes, i know where the Ethernet goes & i never said it's an internal
> modem, rather, it's the Motorola 2210 modem
>
> 2 - see 1a
>
> thanks but all is as you say, except the filter allows nothing to connect
> from the bedroom jack, so i removed it & it works, when it does, or else,
> nothing w/ the filter
>
> --
> Dallas.....
>
> Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
> 16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T
>
>
> "Malke" <malke(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23vFsF7mSJHA.4576(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry if this is not the proper NG but I tried a Windows Forum for ISP's
>>> &
>>> connectivity, & of course have dealt with AT&T too many times to count &
>>> am fed up with them.
>>>
>>> so maybe someone here has had similar issues. Or maybe you can point me
>>> in the right direction.
>>>
>>> I have the Motorola 2210 Modem
>>>
>>> I have 1 phone hooked up to one jack & this PC/Modem to another. I have
>>> a
>>> filter on the phone end only as when trying the filter on the PC end
>>> too,
>>> it has never worked.
>>>
>>> There is no Router. No other user. It's a basic 1 PC set up. I have a
>>> 40"
>>> phone line running from the wall jack into this room - no connectors,
>>> just one 40' line. It does not cross or run parallel any other AC
>>> lines.
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> You are quite right - this is not the proper newsgroup for this question
>> as
>> it has nothing to do with Windows XP. A much better venue for you would
>> be
>> one or more of the forums at www.dslreports.com.
>>
>> A few thoughts:
>>
>> 1. The normal DSL set up is:
>>
>> a. Two-part filter at the phone jack. One connection is for a telephone
>> (optional) and one connection is for the DSL cable. The DSL cable
>> terminates at the DSL modem.
>>
>> b. Single-part filters go in every phone jack that is for the telephone
>> number shared by the DSL connection.
>>
>> c. An ethernet cable runs from the DSL modem to the computer's network
>> adapter connector. No PCI modem (in the computer) is involved at all.
>>
>> 2. I don't get what you have a 40" - or 40' since you wrote it both
>> ways -
>> phone line in this equation at all. You can plug the DSL modem into any
>> phone jack in any room.
>>
>> If you aren't conforming to the normal DSL setup described in Item #1
>> above,
>> that's probably why you are having connectivity issues.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>
>
>


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