From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt on

> Using a mutex in clk_enable()/clk_disable() is a bad idea, since that
> makes it impossible to call those functions in interrupt context.

And doing clk_enable/clk_disable from interrupt context is a bad idea as
well :-)

Cheers,
Ben.


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From: Ben Dooks on
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:08:01PM +0200, Lothar Wa?mann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > > > Using a mutex in clk_enable()/clk_disable() is a bad idea, since that
> > > > > makes it impossible to call those functions in interrupt context.
> > IMHO if a device generates an irq its clock should already be on. This
> > way you don't need to enable or disable a clock in irq context.
> >
> You may want to disable a clock in the IRQ handler. The VPU driver in
> the Freescale BSP for i.MX51 does exactly this.
> Anyway I don't see any reason for using a mutex here instead of
> spin_lock_irq_save() as all other implementations do.

Hmm, then again the VPU driver may just be a bit wrong here.

We could protect each clock with a spinlock, but that would end up
with a problem of spinning where we have clocks that takes 100s of
usec or so to init. See all PLLs on S3C devices, where it can take
100-300uS to get a stable clock out of the device.

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From: Ben Dooks on
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:14:35AM +0200, Lothar Wa?mann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > > +static inline int clk_enable(struct clk *clk)
> > > > +{
> > > > + int ret = 0;
> > > > +
> > > > + if (!clk->ops->enable)
> > > > + return 0;
> > > > +
> > > > + mutex_lock(&clk->mutex);
> > > > + if (!clk->enable_count)
> > > > + ret = clk->ops->enable(clk);
> > > > +
> > > > + if (!ret)
> > > > + clk->enable_count++;
> > > > + mutex_unlock(&clk->mutex);
> > > > +
> > > > + return ret;
> > > > +}
> > >
> Using a mutex in clk_enable()/clk_disable() is a bad idea, since that
> makes it impossible to call those functions in interrupt context.

I think that is a bad idea, unless you can provide otherwise. These
calls can sleep depending on implementation, and thus I would like to
ensure that they are marked as might-sleep.

Is there any specific reason? If so, we need to add some form of ops
where we have _nosleep specificially for this case.

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From: Jeremy Kerr on
Hi Ben,

> You also need a warning that even if it protects the clock, it may not
> protect any access to the hardware implementing it.

Yep, agreed. HW clock implementations are free to acquire the mutex in their
ops.

> > I believe we need to ensure that clocks are enabled when clk_enable
> > returns, so we'll need some mechanism for waiting on the thread doing
> > the enable/disable. Since (as you say) some clocks may take 100s of
> > microseconds to enable, we'll need a lock that we can hold while
> > sleeping.
>
> Well, mutexes give us that, whilst enabling we hold the mutex.

Exactly, that's why I think the mutex option is the best way to go.

> > I've just yesterday added the following to my tree, to allow dynamic
> > initialisation:
> >
> > static inline void clk_init(struct clk *clk, const struct clk_ops *ops)
> > {
> >
> > clk->ops = ops;
> > clk->enable_count = 0;
> > mutex_init(&clk->mutex);
> >
> > }
> >
> > So we can do this either way.
>
> the above is in my view better.

By 'the above' do you mean doing the mutex init at registration time, or the
clk_init code above?

Either way should be fine; delaying the mutex_init until registration will has
the nice property of not requiring the clock name to be passed to INIT_CLK.

> > I've been debating dropping the get_parent and set_parent ops entirely,
> > actually; setting a parent seems to be quite specific to hardware (you
> > have to know that a particular clock can be a parent of another clock),
> > so it seems like something that we shouldn't expose to drivers through
> > this API. For the code that knows the hardware, it can probably access
> > the underlying clock types directly.
>
> Not really, and it is in use with extant drivers, so not easily
> removable either.

OK, is set_parent used much? I can see the use of get_parent, but calls
set_parent need to know specifics of the clock hardware.

> > Checking for the ops first allows us to skip the mutex acquire, but I'm
> > happy either way.
>
> erm, sorry, yes, you can check for them before mutex. any chages
> should be done with mutex held.

Yep.

> > Using default ops would mean a couple of things:
> >
> > 1) we can no longer mark the real ops as const; and
> > 2) we can no longer avoid the hard-to-predict indirect branch
>
> ok, how about people have to mark these as a default non op in their
> clock structure, and then error if they try and register a clock with
> null ops. anyone changing these to NULL later deserves all the pain and
> agony they get.

That addresses the first point, but still means we have an unnecessary
indirect branch to a function that does nothing. Since I've unlined the code
where this happens, the checks for null ops are pretty unobtrusive. If we
require all ops to be not-null, then we'll need much larger chunks of code
where the ops are defined. I like that you can just set the ops callbacks that
you need, and the rest "just works".

Cheers,


Jeremy
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From: Lothar Waßmann on
Hi,

Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:
> On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 12:08 +0200, Lothar Wa�mann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > > > > Using a mutex in clk_enable()/clk_disable() is a bad idea, since that
> > > > > > makes it impossible to call those functions in interrupt context.
> > > IMHO if a device generates an irq its clock should already be on. This
> > > way you don't need to enable or disable a clock in irq context.
> > >
> > You may want to disable a clock in the IRQ handler. The VPU driver in
> > the Freescale BSP for i.MX51 does exactly this.
> > Anyway I don't see any reason for using a mutex here instead of
> > spin_lock_irq_save() as all other implementations do.
>
> Because you suddenly make it impossible to sleep inside enable/disable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
???
All implementations so far use spin_lock_irq_save()!

How would you be able to sleep with a mutex held?
If you hold a lock you must not sleep, no matter what sort of lock it
is.


Lothar Wa�mann
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