From: Uwe Kleine-König on
Hello Lothar,

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 08:39:21AM +0200, Lothar Wa�mann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:
> > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 12:08 +0200, Lothar Wa�mann wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > > > > Using a mutex in clk_enable()/clk_disable() is a bad idea, since that
> > > > > > > makes it impossible to call those functions in interrupt context.
> > > > IMHO if a device generates an irq its clock should already be on. This
> > > > way you don't need to enable or disable a clock in irq context.
> > > >
> > > You may want to disable a clock in the IRQ handler. The VPU driver in
> > > the Freescale BSP for i.MX51 does exactly this.
> > > Anyway I don't see any reason for using a mutex here instead of
> > > spin_lock_irq_save() as all other implementations do.
> >
> > Because you suddenly make it impossible to sleep inside enable/disable
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ???
> All implementations so far use spin_lock_irq_save()!
>
> How would you be able to sleep with a mutex held?
> If you hold a lock you must not sleep, no matter what sort of lock it
> is.
That's wrong. With a mutex hold you may sleep.

Best regards
Uwe

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From: Lothar Waßmann on
Hi,

Uwe Kleine-K�nig writes:
> Hello Lothar,
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 08:39:21AM +0200, Lothar Wa�mann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:
> > > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 12:08 +0200, Lothar Wa�mann wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Using a mutex in clk_enable()/clk_disable() is a bad idea, since that
> > > > > > > > makes it impossible to call those functions in interrupt context.
> > > > > IMHO if a device generates an irq its clock should already be on. This
> > > > > way you don't need to enable or disable a clock in irq context.
> > > > >
> > > > You may want to disable a clock in the IRQ handler. The VPU driver in
> > > > the Freescale BSP for i.MX51 does exactly this.
> > > > Anyway I don't see any reason for using a mutex here instead of
> > > > spin_lock_irq_save() as all other implementations do.
> > >
> > > Because you suddenly make it impossible to sleep inside enable/disable
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > ???
> > All implementations so far use spin_lock_irq_save()!
> >
> > How would you be able to sleep with a mutex held?
> > If you hold a lock you must not sleep, no matter what sort of lock it
> > is.
> That's wrong. With a mutex hold you may sleep.
>
OK, you're right. But still all other implementations (omap, mxc,
davinci,...) use spin_lock_irqsave() to protect the enable/disable
functions and don't seem to have any problem with this.
Is there any reason to change this, or make it inconsistent
for one arch?

And arch/arm/plat-s3c/clock.c has the following comment:
|/* We originally used an mutex here, but some contexts (see resume)
| * are calling functions such as clk_set_parent() with IRQs disabled
| * causing an BUG to be triggered.
| */
|DEFINE_SPINLOCK(clocks_lock);


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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt on
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:39 +0200, Lothar Waßmann wrote:
> All implementations so far use spin_lock_irq_save()!

Nothing prevents your implementation to be a tad smarter.

> How would you be able to sleep with a mutex held?
> If you hold a lock you must not sleep, no matter what sort of lock it
> is.

You can perfectly sleep with a mutex held. You -do- have to be careful
of course to ensure you aren't going to do silly thing like re-enter and
try to take it twice, or A->B B->A deadlocks, but in the typical case of
wanting to use a msleep rather than udelay, it works very well :-)

Cheers,
Ben.


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From: Lothar Waßmann on
Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:
> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:39 +0200, Lothar Wa�mann wrote:
> > All implementations so far use spin_lock_irq_save()!
>
> Nothing prevents your implementation to be a tad smarter.
>
I vote for consistency, so that device drivers can be kept arch
independent instead of having to care about implentation details of
each arch.


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From: Uwe Kleine-König on
Hello,

> And arch/arm/plat-s3c/clock.c has the following comment:
> |/* We originally used an mutex here, but some contexts (see resume)
> | * are calling functions such as clk_set_parent() with IRQs disabled
> | * causing an BUG to be triggered.
> | */
> |DEFINE_SPINLOCK(clocks_lock);
I wonder why it's needed to reparent clocks during resume. And where
exactly IRQs are disabled. Hmm, this comment was initially introduced
by v2.6.28-rc7-180-gc3391e3, its commit log talks about cpufreq, not
resume.

Ben (Dooks): Is this still relevant?

Best regards
Uwe

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