From: GioZane on
Word 2007:

This is a real head scratcher, but the moral of the story I guess if that
luckily page numbers are counted regardless of being "linked" to the previous
section. The link is purely for formatting, as I understand, and this saved
me.

But here's the thing that needs to be much easier to do.

I need to add a blank page I can control before the first page of a chapter
to put some artwork in.

The layout is artwork on the left (insert auto blank page if necessary), and
the text of the first chapter is on the right.

I can't use "first page different" because i already use that for the first
page of the chapter which has titles.

So the artwork page has to be it's own section.

Problem is in order to delete the header/footer from this "art page"
section, I have to totally unlink the h/f'sfrom the rest of the sections
(itself, and the ones after).

This would mean that I would need to manually go in and change each header
section by section if I needed to make a change. Luckily in my case I don't
have to change the headers or the formatting of the footer pages often, and
this art page that has become an "island" section only happens 8 times in the
book.

But I could see how this could cause a heck of a lot of lost time. Imagine
a separate section for full page art every three pages, then realizing you
needed to change the header text... you'd have to do every section manually,
one by one.

We need to have a way to link sections to other specific sections (to "link
to previous previous") and have more than one "different" pages at the start
of a section.

Maybe I'm just not reading the right stuff, but this seems limiting and
unbelievably over complex.

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From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on
Is the artwork going to be inserted in the file itself or added after
printing? If the latter, then an Odd Page section break (provided the
previous section ends on an odd page) will give you a totally blank even
page (included in the page count).

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"GioZane" <GioZane(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Word 2007:
>
> This is a real head scratcher, but the moral of the story I guess if that
> luckily page numbers are counted regardless of being "linked" to the
> previous
> section. The link is purely for formatting, as I understand, and this
> saved
> me.
>
> But here's the thing that needs to be much easier to do.
>
> I need to add a blank page I can control before the first page of a
> chapter
> to put some artwork in.
>
> The layout is artwork on the left (insert auto blank page if necessary),
> and
> the text of the first chapter is on the right.
>
> I can't use "first page different" because i already use that for the
> first
> page of the chapter which has titles.
>
> So the artwork page has to be it's own section.
>
> Problem is in order to delete the header/footer from this "art page"
> section, I have to totally unlink the h/f'sfrom the rest of the sections
> (itself, and the ones after).
>
> This would mean that I would need to manually go in and change each header
> section by section if I needed to make a change. Luckily in my case I
> don't
> have to change the headers or the formatting of the footer pages often,
> and
> this art page that has become an "island" section only happens 8 times in
> the
> book.
>
> But I could see how this could cause a heck of a lot of lost time.
> Imagine
> a separate section for full page art every three pages, then realizing you
> needed to change the header text... you'd have to do every section
> manually,
> one by one.
>
> We need to have a way to link sections to other specific sections (to
> "link
> to previous previous") and have more than one "different" pages at the
> start
> of a section.
>
> Maybe I'm just not reading the right stuff, but this seems limiting and
> unbelievably over complex.
>
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From: Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com on
There may be a way to avoid separate sections for the chapter leaf pages by
using vba code in even page header to insert the header text only after
section page 2 (or some such). Something along the lines of { if sectionpage
> 2 "your header text"}. But I'm not a vba writer. Try asking your
question in the Word programming forum.

Pam


GioZane wrote:
>Word 2007:
>
>This is a real head scratcher, but the moral of the story I guess if that
>luckily page numbers are counted regardless of being "linked" to the previous
>section. The link is purely for formatting, as I understand, and this saved
>me.
>
>But here's the thing that needs to be much easier to do.
>
>I need to add a blank page I can control before the first page of a chapter
>to put some artwork in.
>
>The layout is artwork on the left (insert auto blank page if necessary), and
>the text of the first chapter is on the right.
>
>I can't use "first page different" because i already use that for the first
>page of the chapter which has titles.
>
>So the artwork page has to be it's own section.
>
>Problem is in order to delete the header/footer from this "art page"
>section, I have to totally unlink the h/f'sfrom the rest of the sections
>(itself, and the ones after).
>
>This would mean that I would need to manually go in and change each header
>section by section if I needed to make a change. Luckily in my case I don't
>have to change the headers or the formatting of the footer pages often, and
>this art page that has become an "island" section only happens 8 times in the
>book.
>
>But I could see how this could cause a heck of a lot of lost time. Imagine
>a separate section for full page art every three pages, then realizing you
>needed to change the header text... you'd have to do every section manually,
>one by one.
>
>We need to have a way to link sections to other specific sections (to "link
>to previous previous") and have more than one "different" pages at the start
>of a section.
>
>Maybe I'm just not reading the right stuff, but this seems limiting and
>unbelievably over complex.

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From: Stefan Blom on
Hmm, an IF field construct could be used, assuming that the page number is
known, or can be calculated.

But, of course, the idea of "blank pages for pictures" is more suitable for page
layout applications than for a word processor.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
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"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" <u43222(a)uwe> wrote in message
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> There may be a way to avoid separate sections for the chapter leaf pages by
> using vba code in even page header to insert the header text only after
> section page 2 (or some such). Something along the lines of { if sectionpage
>> 2 "your header text"}. But I'm not a vba writer. Try asking your
> question in the Word programming forum.
>
> Pam
>
>
> GioZane wrote:
>>Word 2007:
>>
>>This is a real head scratcher, but the moral of the story I guess if that
>>luckily page numbers are counted regardless of being "linked" to the previous
>>section. The link is purely for formatting, as I understand, and this saved
>>me.
>>
>>But here's the thing that needs to be much easier to do.
>>
>>I need to add a blank page I can control before the first page of a chapter
>>to put some artwork in.
>>
>>The layout is artwork on the left (insert auto blank page if necessary), and
>>the text of the first chapter is on the right.
>>
>>I can't use "first page different" because i already use that for the first
>>page of the chapter which has titles.
>>
>>So the artwork page has to be it's own section.
>>
>>Problem is in order to delete the header/footer from this "art page"
>>section, I have to totally unlink the h/f'sfrom the rest of the sections
>>(itself, and the ones after).
>>
>>This would mean that I would need to manually go in and change each header
>>section by section if I needed to make a change. Luckily in my case I don't
>>have to change the headers or the formatting of the footer pages often, and
>>this art page that has become an "island" section only happens 8 times in the
>>book.
>>
>>But I could see how this could cause a heck of a lot of lost time. Imagine
>>a separate section for full page art every three pages, then realizing you
>>needed to change the header text... you'd have to do every section manually,
>>one by one.
>>
>>We need to have a way to link sections to other specific sections (to "link
>>to previous previous") and have more than one "different" pages at the start
>>of a section.
>>
>>Maybe I'm just not reading the right stuff, but this seems limiting and
>>unbelievably over complex.
>
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