Alternative monitor for iMac-recommendation?
in [Digital Cameras]
|
Prev: Truer Colours
Next: MEN85 23 inches 304 style stainless steel necklace, 5mm widthmen85 of wholesale beads
From: Mark2149 on 13 Jun 2010 22:47 I have an iMac 20", a version just prior to the present available versions. I am doing photography that requires some color management. The monitor on the iMac is notoriously unsuited for color management. The backlighting is too bright and cannot be be correctly adjusted for proper monitor calibration. I have tried a couple of workarounds (ColorEyes, Dark Adapt) that help some but do not really solve the problem. Martin Evening's new book about Photoshop CS5 tells of facing the same problem. He suggests nothing will help except getting a 2nd monitor that does not suffer from excessive backlighting. I am prepared to give serious consideration to doing just that, I would guess that something like a 24" monitor would be right. I would appreciate suggestions of monitors that would be suitable. There seems to be a number available. How do you choose among them? Apple has a 24" model available, but so do HP, LaCie, and others. Thanks for the help.
From: Fred McKenzie on 14 Jun 2010 00:50 In article <8359eccc-3b8d-4c9b-9263-ef88e32ce391(a)42g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, "Mark2149(a)cox.net" <Mark2149(a)cox.net> wrote: > The backlighting is too bright and cannot be be correctly adjusted for > proper monitor calibration. Mark- My iMac is the first Intel 20" model. I wonder if you tried adjusting your iMac's brightness with the f1 and f2 keys? That doesn't work on my iMac, but does on a year-old Mac Pro. Using a VGA adapter, an older Samsung 17" LCD monitor works OK as a second screen. However it is showing its age, with the center slightly brighter than the edges. That old monitor cost around $1000 when new, but could be replaced today with a better unit for much less money. You may find an external monitor that meets your needs. However, if you are doing professional photo work, it might be worth it to go ahead and get a Mac Pro with an Apple monitor (or two). Fred
From: Martin Brown on 14 Jun 2010 04:05 On 14/06/2010 03:47, Mark2149(a)cox.net wrote: > I have an iMac 20", a version just prior to the present available > versions. I am doing photography that requires some color management. > The monitor on the iMac is notoriously unsuited for color management. > The backlighting is too bright and cannot be be correctly adjusted for > proper monitor calibration. I have tried a couple of workarounds > (ColorEyes, Dark Adapt) that help some but do not really solve the > problem. Martin Evening's new book about Photoshop CS5 tells of facing > the same problem. He suggests nothing will help except getting a 2nd > monitor that does not suffer from excessive backlighting. I am > prepared to give serious consideration to doing just that, > > I would guess that something like a 24" monitor would be right. I > would appreciate suggestions of monitors that would be suitable. There > seems to be a number available. How do you choose among them? Apple > has a 24" model available, but so do HP, LaCie, and others. Thanks for > the help. HP LP2475w is worth a look - it is one of a handful of IPS 24" displays that span the boundary between professional no expense spared colour managed monitors and cheap gaming never mind the quality feel the width ones. The colour gamut on it is considerably wider than on TN LCDs. Reviews sometimes complain of headaches from the brighter reds but I suspect they are the ones who fail to adjust the display from its factory default "shop display" mode (too saturated, too bright etc). I am surprised the Apple display lacks adequate brightness adjustment though. Apple kit is never cheap and it is a basic requirement. Regards, Martin Brown
From: Pete on 14 Jun 2010 08:37 On 2010-06-14 07:06:13 +0100, Savageduck said: > On 2010-06-13 19:47:47 -0700, "Mark2149(a)cox.net" <Mark2149(a)cox.net> said: > >> I have an iMac 20", a version just prior to the present available >> versions. I am doing photography that requires some color management. >> The monitor on the iMac is notoriously unsuited for color management. >> The backlighting is too bright and cannot be be correctly adjusted for >> proper monitor calibration. I have tried a couple of workarounds >> (ColorEyes, Dark Adapt) that help some but do not really solve the >> problem. Martin Evening's new book about Photoshop CS5 tells of facing >> the same problem. He suggests nothing will help except getting a 2nd >> monitor that does not suffer from excessive backlighting. I am >> prepared to give serious consideration to doing just that, >> >> I would guess that something like a 24" monitor would be right. I >> would appreciate suggestions of monitors that would be suitable. There >> seems to be a number available. How do you choose among them? Apple >> has a 24" model available, but so do HP, LaCie, and others. Thanks for >> the help. > > Certainly any of the monitors you have mentioned and both the Apple Pro > and Samsung monitors are also worth considering as add-ons. > > ...but first I would suggest you actually open the System Preferences > on your Mac. Open the Displays panel, select color and go through the > step by step calibration. Create a profile for the calibration you > reach. I think you will be surprised at the difference between the > Apple default and the calibration you end up with. > It is quite simple to do and does not require any expertise other than > your eyeball. > > Good luck. When using System Preference for calibration be sure to select a Target Gamma of 2.2 instead of the Apple default 1.8. IIRC Snow Leopard changed the default to 2.2, which is the correct value for rendering photos and video. The calibration is best done as an admistrative user otherwise it is very difficult to share the monitor profile between multiple users. Check calibration again after a system restart, something odd happened during my calibration using Leopard. Also be aware that some viewing/editing software gets confused over display profiles when it straddles two monitors. -- Pete
From: John Navas on 17 Jun 2010 12:48
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:05:13 +0100, in <RolRn.97136$_84.92867(a)newsfe18.iad>, Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On 14/06/2010 03:47, Mark2149(a)cox.net wrote: >> I have an iMac 20", a version just prior to the present available >> versions. I am doing photography that requires some color management. >> The monitor on the iMac is notoriously unsuited for color management. >> The backlighting is too bright and cannot be be correctly adjusted for >> proper monitor calibration. I have tried a couple of workarounds >> (ColorEyes, Dark Adapt) that help some but do not really solve the >> problem. Martin Evening's new book about Photoshop CS5 tells of facing >> the same problem. He suggests nothing will help except getting a 2nd >> monitor that does not suffer from excessive backlighting. I am >> prepared to give serious consideration to doing just that, >> >> I would guess that something like a 24" monitor would be right. I >> would appreciate suggestions of monitors that would be suitable. There >> seems to be a number available. How do you choose among them? Apple >> has a 24" model available, but so do HP, LaCie, and others. Thanks for >> the help. > >HP LP2475w is worth a look - it is one of a handful of IPS 24" displays >that span the boundary between professional no expense spared colour >managed monitors and cheap gaming never mind the quality feel the width >ones. The colour gamut on it is considerably wider than on TN LCDs. 2nd the motion for the HP LP2475W Another excellent option is the NEC MultiSync LCD2490WUXi Very good bargain option is the Dell UltraSharp 2209WA -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams |