From: Rod Speed on
Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> doctor wrote

>>>>> I am thinking of using VOIP and was wondering whether I need to get a VOIP phone

>>>> No you dont.

>>>>> or can I use the existing analog handset?

>>>> Yes, you use an ATA, plug the existing analog handset into that.

>>>> One of the cheapest ways to get voip is with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.

>>>> You can get an ata for an effective price of just $10 and just plug it between your existing analog handset and the
>>>> router and its all setup so you just pick up the handset and start making calls etc.

>>> If you're lucky.

>> You dont need to be lucky. Everyone I know who has tried it has found it works as easily as that.

> Well I have three more to set up in a home situation, so we'll see.

Bet you find it works as well as I have.

>>> I spent about 45 mins on the phone with them once while they tried
>>> to get that Mitron box to work. Admitteldy it was in an office situation.

>> So what did you have to do to make it work ?

> I just did what they said- changed all sorts of settings on the box and router. No idea what they all were or why.

I meant what those settings were.

>>>> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/whirlpool/VoIP/Whirlpool-Shop/Bring-Your-Own-Device
>>>> Then you need this box to make the calls with on your normal phone, thats the ATA
>>>> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/offers/whirlpool/whirlpool-specials/mitron-page-501/

>>>> That way you pay no monthly fee at all and pay just 10c for each
>>>> call you make to other than mobiles.

>>>> Some other plans can make more sense if you make a lot of overseas
>>>> calls, and pennytel can be much better value with overseas calls too.


From: Rod Speed on
Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Tsunami Australia wrote
>>> doctor wrote

>>>> I am thinking of using VOIP and was wondering whether I need to get a VOIP phone or can I use the existing analog
>>>> handset?

>>> Unless you are running a business style phone system and are
>>> converting the whole lot to VOIP then a VOIP phone might be a waste.

>> Nope, the cheapest ATA only costs $10. Everyone who makes any
>> calls at all will end up ahead quite quickly with a 15c saving on calls.

> And streets ahead with national and international calls.

Yeah, could have said that more clearly.

>>> If you get an ATA something like the Linksys 3102 I think the model was, then you can connect the VOIP and your
>>> normal phone line to a plain house phone.

>> Yes, but that is a lot more than $10.

> Just put the mitron box in parallel on the telstra line

Yeah, thats the way I do it myself.

The other config, a DSL router with voip and fallback is a rather
better config because you only need a single analog phone system,
but you cant currently do that for an effective cost of just $10.

That config also allows more flexibility like using pennytel for international calls
and MNF for national and local calls, because its more reliable than pennytel.


From: Marts on
Tsunami Australia wrote...

> Unless you are running a business style phone system and are converting
> the whole lot to VOIP then a VOIP phone might be a waste. If you get an
> ATA something like the Linksys 3102 I think the model was, then you can
> connect the VOIP and your normal phone line to a plain house phone.

I do that with a Sipura SPA3000 ATA. It's the model before the Linksys 3102 I
think, before Sipura was rebadged as Linksys.

It took a fair bit of configuring to get it set up just so. I still have issues
with dialing 1800, 1300 and 13x--- numbers with it via VOIP.

But it's configured so that when we dial out via VOIP we get an American style
dial tone. If via Telstra PSTN we get the standard Telstra dial tone. Except
that it's not Telstra's dial tone that we hear. It's what the ATA itself
generates.

Only problem with the setup is that if the internet is down, the ATA doesn't
fall back to Telstra. This is because I locked it out. In the past the missus
had called overseas but hadn't realised that it was via Telstra, because there
was a network issue at the time. So, the dial tone change and the locking out of
the fallback provisions fixed that.

I have a handset on the fax machine so if the 'net's down we can use that in an
emergency.

VOIP gets a bit tetchy if I have a few P2P downloads happening (by a few I mean
a dozen or so).


From: Rod Speed on
Marts wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Some other plans can make more sense if you make a lot of overseas
>> calls, and pennytel can be much better value with overseas calls too.

> Just looked at its plans. Not bad.

Yeah, particularly for no monthly fee and 9c untimed overseas calls.

> We are with MNF and the "Neo Saver" Whirlpool plan.

I've got both pennytel and MyNetFone, both on no monthly fee plans,
so there is no reason to not have both. I use the whirlpoolsaver plan
on MNF, 10c untimed national and local calls I dont use pennytel
all the time because its not as reliable as MNF and doesnt have
the $10 effective cost ATA which is very convenient to use.

> It allows us free calls to the US and locally as a part of the $5 monthly fee.

Yeah, I dont make enough calls to justify any monthly fee at all.

> Then after that it's 10 cents untimed anywhere.

> Calls to mobiles are around 15 cents a minute.

Yeah, and with the usual quick call, thats as cheap as a POTS local call.

Main thing I havent found any fix for is calls to 13 numbers, they
still cost the same as a POTS local call, roughly 25c untimed.

> So, it appears that Pennytel is cheaper than the cheaper of MNF's plans.

> Hmmm...

But not as reliable as MNF and doesnt have the $10 effective cost ATA either.

It does have voip over mobile phones tho, using Optarse.


From: doctor on
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:7qsevcF6kuU1
@mid.individual.net:

> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/offers/whirlpool/whirlpool-sp

A bit late but thanks Rod!
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