From: tolgan on 8 May 2010 08:49 On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> >wrote: > >>I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the input and VGA as >>the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. Price was about 50 Euros. > >I found the announcement: > > http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html > >. Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the laptop vga socket? Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to dock?
From: BillW50 on 8 May 2010 09:19 In news:o6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd(a)4ax.com, tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100: > On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster > <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster >> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >> >>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the >>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. >>> Price was about 50 Euros. >> >> I found the announcement: >> >> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html >> >> . > > Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it > doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it > would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the > laptop vga socket? > > Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the > video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to > dock? Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the bottom does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually thinking about adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all of them wouldn't work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I misunderstood. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
From: tolgan on 9 May 2010 12:43 On Sat, 8 May 2010 08:19:34 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >In news:o6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd(a)4ax.com, >tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100: >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster >> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster >>> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the >>>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. >>>> Price was about 50 Euros. >>> >>> I found the announcement: >>> >>> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html >>> >>> . >> >> Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it >> doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it >> would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the >> laptop vga socket? >> >> Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the >> video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to >> dock? > >Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the bottom >does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually thinking about >adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all of them wouldn't >work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I misunderstood. I've just been told on the Dell forum that what I am looking for doesn't exist for nthe Inspiron series so I guess you are right. I'm still puzzled though, if the box you mentioned has usb in and vga out and supports 1920 X 1200 why wouldn't it work for me?
From: Pen on 9 May 2010 13:06 On 5/9/2010 10:43 AM, tolgan wrote: > On Sat, 8 May 2010 08:19:34 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >> In news:o6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd(a)4ax.com, >> tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100: >>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster >>> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster >>>> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the >>>>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. >>>>> Price was about 50 Euros. >>>> >>>> I found the announcement: >>>> >>>> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html >>>> >>>> . >>> >>> Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it >>> doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure it >>> would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor into the >>> laptop vga socket? >>> >>> Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug the >>> video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in order to >>> dock? >> >> Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the bottom >> does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually thinking about >> adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all of them wouldn't >> work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I misunderstood. > > I've just been told on the Dell forum that what I am looking for > doesn't exist for nthe Inspiron series so I guess you are right. I'm > still puzzled though, if the box you mentioned has usb in and vga out > and supports 1920 X 1200 why wouldn't it work for me? The problem is that all that information has to flow down a USB connection. I just removed one from my wife's laptop as I needed to reboot her computer several times a week to keep it all functioning and this was with a Toshiba one, which was the ONLY one on Newegg that had positive user reviews. The bulk of what Newegg sold had mostly horror stories. Think about it. One USB 2.0 has to deal with supplying data to VGA Video, Ethernet, printers, mouse, keyboard and any external drives.
From: BillW50 on 9 May 2010 20:25
In news:hs6q2c$ivf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Pen typed on Sun, 09 May 2010 11:06:23 -0600: > On 5/9/2010 10:43 AM, tolgan wrote: >> On Sat, 8 May 2010 08:19:34 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >>> In news:o6nau5lmuu6qdpl64stielhi69bfhde1nd(a)4ax.com, >>> tolgan typed on Sat, 08 May 2010 13:49:56 +0100: >>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:40:51 +0300, Happy Oyster >>>> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:38:32 +0300, Happy Oyster >>>>> <happy.oyster(a)ariplex.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I recently saw the announcement of a video box with USB as the >>>>>> input and VGA as the output connection. The resolutions I forgot. >>>>>> Price was about 50 Euros. >>>>> >>>>> I found the announcement: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.golem.de/1004/74527.html >>>>> >>>>> . >>>> >>>> Looks like it can handle the video very well, but looks like it >>>> doesn't act as a usb hub - ie no usb out from it - so I'm not sure >>>> it would be much more convenient than just plugging the monitor >>>> into the laptop vga socket? >>>> >>>> Or maybe the intented use is to buy a usb hub as well, and plug >>>> the video box into that, then I only have one usb to plug in in >>>> order to dock? >>> >>> Oh? That Dell Inspiron 1750 doesn't have a docking port on the >>> bottom does it? Oh then all bets are off. As you are actually >>> thinking about adding an universal port replicator, right? Then all >>> of them wouldn't work as well as the VGA out of the laptop. Sorry I >>> misunderstood. >> >> I've just been told on the Dell forum that what I am looking for >> doesn't exist for nthe Inspiron series so I guess you are right. I'm >> still puzzled though, if the box you mentioned has usb in and vga out >> and supports 1920 X 1200 why wouldn't it work for me? > > The problem is that all that information has to flow down a > USB connection. I just removed one from my wife's laptop as > I needed to reboot her computer several times a week to keep > it all functioning and this was with a Toshiba one, which > was the ONLY one on Newegg that had positive user reviews. > The bulk of what Newegg sold had mostly horror stories. > Think about it. One USB 2.0 has to deal with supplying data > to VGA Video, Ethernet, printers, mouse, keyboard and any > external drives. Pen is right. USB2 doesn't have the bandwidth to handle even an 800x600 resolution at 60 fps which would yield 28.8 MHz video bandwidth. How they usually fake those video outputs from USB is by dropping the frame rate so low like 5 frames per second or something. So the video display ends up being very slow. Might be okay for typing text into a text editor or something. But not very useful for much of anything else. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3 |