From: Hector Santos on
Apple finally did it! They all Client/Server technology, RPC, DCOM
network resource file sharing, offline, offload (caching) technology,
object oriented technology, name it everything under the roof because
Android and Microsoft WP7 is going to be a threat to them.

Here is a break down of the old patents (and I mean OLD) that Apple is
now enforcing:

http://i.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-vs-htc-a-patent-breakdown/

What interest me is this one:

Patent #5,481,721: Method for providing automatic and dynamic
translation of object oriented programming language-based message
passing into operation system message passing using proxy objects

This one's fun -- it's actually an old NeXT patent from 1996. And
we're talking old-school NeXT -- the inventors are listed as Betrand
Serlet, Avie Tevanian, and Lee Boynton. Anyway, this one is large,
broad, and technical: it covers passing objects in an OS between
processes by way of a proxy object. Again, given that this is
primarily an OS patent and that Apple claims all of HTC's Android
phones infringe it, it's hard to shake the impression that this case
is anything but a proxy for a larger fight to come.

That means our 1996 Wildcat! Interactive Net Server
(http://www.santronics.com) and Microsoft ASP.NET violating technology!

Wow!


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From: Hector Santos on
You're lucky. The USPTO system here really needs to get revamped.
Unfortunately, it isn't going to happen in this society.


m wrote:

> Fortunately many of us live in countries where this inanity is
> irrelevant because software cannot be patent; even if these were
> legitimate patents!
>
> "Hector Santos" <sant9442(a)nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ebhZMdmuKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Apple finally did it! They all Client/Server technology, RPC, DCOM
>> network resource file sharing, offline, offload (caching) technology,
>> object oriented technology, name it everything under the roof because
>> Android and Microsoft WP7 is going to be a threat to them.
>>
>> Here is a break down of the old patents (and I mean OLD) that Apple is
>> now enforcing:
>>
>> http://i.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-vs-htc-a-patent-breakdown/
>>
>> What interest me is this one:
>>
>> Patent #5,481,721: Method for providing automatic and dynamic
>> translation of object oriented programming language-based message
>> passing into operation system message passing using proxy objects
>>
>> This one's fun -- it's actually an old NeXT patent from 1996. And
>> we're talking old-school NeXT -- the inventors are listed as Betrand
>> Serlet, Avie Tevanian, and Lee Boynton. Anyway, this one is large,
>> broad, and technical: it covers passing objects in an OS between
>> processes by way of a proxy object. Again, given that this is
>> primarily an OS patent and that Apple claims all of HTC's Android
>> phones infringe it, it's hard to shake the impression that this case
>> is anything but a proxy for a larger fight to come.
>>
>> That means our 1996 Wildcat! Interactive Net Server
>> (http://www.santronics.com) and Microsoft ASP.NET violating technology!
>>
>> Wow!
>>
>>
>> --
>> HLS
>



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HLS
From: Hector Santos on
Tim Roberts wrote:

> Hector Santos <sant9442(a)nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
>> Apple finally did it! They all Client/Server technology, RPC, DCOM
>> network resource file sharing, offline, offload (caching) technology,
>> object oriented technology, name it everything under the roof because
>> Android and Microsoft WP7 is going to be a threat to them.
>>
>> Here is a break down of the old patents (and I mean OLD) that Apple is
>> now enforcing:
>> http://i.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-vs-htc-a-patent-breakdown/
>> ....Again, given that this is
>> primarily an OS patent and that Apple claims all of HTC's Android
>> phones infringe it, it's hard to shake the impression that this case
>> is anything but a proxy for a larger fight to come.
>
> Not at all. I think you're confused about the purpose of these lawsuits.
> They don't want to stop all computing. They just want to hinder the sales
> of phones that compete with the iPhone.


And the iPAD, the iDickTracyWatch, and basically any client/server
centralized controlled "smart" device scares Apple.

BTW, I did not write the statement above, but I totally agree with it.
It hits home. If we took any mobile phone, put out 1996 designed
client:

http://www.winserver.com/public/wcnavigator.wct

which is framed around virtual PPP communications (Dial up or socket)
with a client side Java proxy with a backend GUI server, and has an
multi-language API to create more of those server controlled "launch
Icons" and applets you see there for games (wcCasino) applets or
anything else, the 1996 721 patent attempts to cover this framework.

The same with Microsoft and WP7 for the new Window mobile phones.

Remember, most companies do not do anything until atleast 2% of their
market is threaten. Google already has 10% of same size Apps market
that Apple has. People are crying for Flash support which Apple
refuses to use because it threatens the iPhone and most definitely the
iPad. Any client side GUI client system that is controlled over a
centralized network is a threat to Apple.

The 721 patent attempts to put a halt of this market that Apple is
pretty new at in general, but has captured the market early with
Mobile phones.

I personally have less of an issue with making those ICON floatable
and multi-touch - but that is only part of it. The real technology is
721 because you really don't need to be multi-touch to gain a market
here.

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