From: Karl E. Peterson on
Henning wrote:
> Is it just that your'e a bad teacher or
> simply it's a wrong statement from you?

He's not even a teacher. Never once has an actual teacher been afraid to post their
real name in a programming forum. That's how they generate business. This guy's
just a poser.
--
http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays/status/3824497914


From: Scott M. on

"Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message
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> Scott M. wrote:
>> Just keep on making my point for me Karl. Thanks.
>
> http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays/status/3848360744
> --
> .NET: It's About Trust!
> http://vfred.mvps.org

Thanks again!


From: Scott M. on

"Henning" <computer_hero(a)coldmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, but the only answer I have read is, that I will be a better VB6
> programmer by comparing VB6 to dotnet. I answered that most likely I would
> be confused, cause the code examples wouldn't compile.

Well, I'm pretty sure that I did not ever state that you would be a better
programmer if you compared VB 6 to VB .NET. I said that you can understand
a concept better if you have something to contrast it against and despite
the prostests of only 3 or 4 people (hardly "nearly every skilled VB 6
programmer"), it is not my opinion that this is a proven learning technique,
it's a tried and true fact. If you find it counter-intuitive, then I accept
that, but do know that you are in the minority. 4 loud people protesting
this point does not a majority make. And, no matter how loud you protest,
it doesn't change the fact that this concept is accepted as an integral part
of the learning process.

Also, I never gave you a .NET code example to try in .NET or vice versa, so
you wouldn't need to worry about being confused about code that doesn't
compile.

Given that the two points you attempt to make here are either not what I
said or not what I did, I think it's safe to conclude that you didn't read
or understand what I did say.

> Would comparing to RB, KB, FB, Delphi, C*, 4TH or assembler also make me
> better?

Don't know about better, because (again) that's not what I said you'd be.
And, don't know enough about these other languges to be able to comment on
them. But, if there is a concept that is common to all of them (say memory
management), then yes, understanding the different ways memory can be
managed will give you a better understaning of working with it overall,
regardless of the language you are particularly working in.

The mere fact that 4 of you have been so loud (and so rude) in opposing this
very simple and widely accepted learning priciple, coupled with what we've
come to learn about these people's feelings about .NET in general, it
becomes obvious that the issue is not really my approach, but my mere
mention of .NET in what some have come to belive is somehow taboo in this
group. The fact is that regardless of the value of the reference, there are
a loud, select few that just will not tolerate any mention of anything other
than VB 6 here and the justifaction for it isn't based on anything rational,
it's just based on their dislike of .NET.

I mean really. No where in this,or any other thread, have I called anyone
names without being provoked first. There are those loud people here, that
will just come at me with some insult for no reason.

Rational people don't act this way. Rational people who disagree don't make
up lies as pass them off as fact and attack others.

The facts are that this is how you and the select, loud, FEW others have
acted and you've shown everyone else here that you are not rational people.

If you are really going to seriously say that analogies and comparisons
aren't valuable when learning something, then you've really just proven how
irrational you are. It's tantamount to exclaiming that 2 + 2 = 22 and then
screaming at someone when they tell you it isn't.


-Scott


From: Karl E. Peterson on
Scott M. wrote:
> Thanks again!

"Last Word!" <LOL>
--
..NET: It's About Trust!
http://vfred.mvps.org


From: Scott M. on

"Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message
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> Scott M. wrote:
>> You'll just need to grow up.
>
> Says the guy who's scared to use his real name.
> --
> .NET: It's About Trust!
> http://vfred.mvps.org

Are you kidding me? I think it's the wisest thing ever to not let crazy
people find out how to find you.

But, I think it's awesome that for someone who's supposed to be so respected
and has got these really important letters after their name, you continue to
act as sophmoric as you do.

You've been having a temper tantrum for a few days now, stomping your feet,
making up nonsense, and calling other people names, without actually
addressing ANY of the facts I have presented. Your only rebuttal has been
"I don't care."

Karl, you're not the guru you think you are. You've proved you know nothing
about education and you've shown you are ignorant. These are not my
opinions or attempts to intentionally insult by the way , you, yourself have
proven them as fact based on you're documented responses in this thread with
your even if what you say is true, I don't care mentality. That is textbook
ignorance.

I have no more time to waste on ignorant blowhards such as yourself. Keep
you head in the sand and watch the world pass you by. In the end, I don't
really care about you either.

-Scott


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