From: John W. Vinson on 30 Apr 2010 12:35 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:09:06 -0400, Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> wrote: >"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote: > >>Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> wrote in >>news:plujt59k9quettohbr0l0k2a5vjp9v0c39(a)4ax.com: >> >>> "David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>>Answered in microsoft.public.access.replication. >>>> >>>>Don't double post. If you *must*, crosspost, but putting >>>>individual posts in different newsgroups is just anti-social >>>>behavior. >>> >>> I apologize for the double post. I posted it where I thought it >>> belonged in the Replication newsgroup. Then I noticed that the >>> Replication newsgroup is not a "Managed" newsgroup and the >>> "Managed" newsgroup that seemed closes to the problem was the >>> tabledesign newsgroup -- so I posted it here. >> >>What is a "managed" newsgroup? >> >>You're not under the impression that Microsoft controls the >>microsoft.public.access newsgroups, are you? Or that any significant >>percentage of the most active posters in these newsgroups use the MS >>website to post? > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa974230.aspx Stewart, the MSDN forum is (currently at least) just one of many newsreaders which connect to this NNTP newsgroup. You can do so directly from Outlook Express, or Windows Live Mail, or Agent, or any of dozens of "repackager" websites. The content is the same whether it's "managed" or not, and in practice we almost never see Microsoft employees posting here. As David says, the bulk of the answers are provided by volunteers like him and me, who don't use the Forums or any other webpage. It's just more convenient if you're reading and replying to scores of messages; a good newsreader like Agent is just *faster* than waiting for a clunky web interface to update the screen. -- John W. Vinson [MVP]
From: Stewart Berman on 3 May 2010 02:34 John W. Vinson <jvinson(a)STOP_SPAM.WysardOfInfo.com> wrote: >On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:09:06 -0400, Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> >wrote: > >>"David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote: >> >>>Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> wrote in >>>news:plujt59k9quettohbr0l0k2a5vjp9v0c39(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>> "David W. Fenton" <XXXusenet(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Answered in microsoft.public.access.replication. >>>>> >>>>>Don't double post. If you *must*, crosspost, but putting >>>>>individual posts in different newsgroups is just anti-social >>>>>behavior. >>>> >>>> I apologize for the double post. I posted it where I thought it >>>> belonged in the Replication newsgroup. Then I noticed that the >>>> Replication newsgroup is not a "Managed" newsgroup and the >>>> "Managed" newsgroup that seemed closes to the problem was the >>>> tabledesign newsgroup -- so I posted it here. >>> >>>What is a "managed" newsgroup? >>> >>>You're not under the impression that Microsoft controls the >>>microsoft.public.access newsgroups, are you? Or that any significant >>>percentage of the most active posters in these newsgroups use the MS >>>website to post? >> >>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa974230.aspx > >Stewart, the MSDN forum is (currently at least) just one of many newsreaders >which connect to this NNTP newsgroup. You can do so directly from Outlook >Express, or Windows Live Mail, or Agent, or any of dozens of "repackager" >websites. The content is the same whether it's "managed" or not, and in >practice we almost never see Microsoft employees posting here. > >As David says, the bulk of the answers are provided by volunteers like him and >me, who don't use the Forums or any other webpage. It's just more convenient >if you're reading and replying to scores of messages; a good newsreader like >Agent is just *faster* than waiting for a clunky web interface to update the >screen. I think you missed this in the link I provided: ". A Microsoft engineer will respond within 2 business days to your posting if the community hasn't already gotten you the answer."
From: John W. Vinson on 3 May 2010 11:43 On Mon, 03 May 2010 02:34:19 -0400, Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> wrote: >I think you missed this in the link I provided: >". A Microsoft engineer will respond within 2 business days to your posting >if the community hasn't already gotten you the answer." I'm aware of this promise. I'm also a regular reader of this forum and I have not seen ANY - not a single one - postings from Microsoft engineers. If you can cite such posts I'll be glad to apologize to you and to them, but if they are posting such replies they're pretty much invisible. -- John W. Vinson [MVP]
From: Stewart Berman on 3 May 2010 16:26 John W. Vinson <jvinson(a)STOP_SPAM.WysardOfInfo.com> wrote: >On Mon, 03 May 2010 02:34:19 -0400, Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> >wrote: > >>I think you missed this in the link I provided: >>". A Microsoft engineer will respond within 2 business days to your posting >>if the community hasn't already gotten you the answer." > >I'm aware of this promise. > >I'm also a regular reader of this forum and I have not seen ANY - not a >single one - postings from Microsoft engineers. > >If you can cite such posts I'll be glad to apologize to you and to them, but >if they are posting such replies they're pretty much invisible. Here's two threads I happened to save references to: o7en55h3l4hjajg9vnjd18fg3ari83icnq(a)4ax.com qds5n4pqhv5f5btea2ko2rj1nk0e9ut1b7(a)4ax.com Do you want me to search for some more?
From: John W. Vinson on 4 May 2010 00:54 On Mon, 03 May 2010 16:26:31 -0400, Stewart Berman <saberman(a)nospam.nospam> wrote: >Here's two threads I happened to save references to: >o7en55h3l4hjajg9vnjd18fg3ari83icnq(a)4ax.com >qds5n4pqhv5f5btea2ko2rj1nk0e9ut1b7(a)4ax.com > >Do you want me to search for some more? Can't read these from Agent but I apologize and I'll take your word for it. MS engineers do sometimes reply, and I'm missing them (perhaps because I skip over many answered threads). -- John W. Vinson [MVP]
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