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From: Ignoramus25756 on 16 Jan 2010 17:55
On 2010-01-16, Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/16/2010 06:45 AM, Thomas wrote:
>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>> Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>>> I have my home folder mounted to a reiserfs filesystem. Though reiser is
>>>> fine as a filesystem, it tends to spew out some informational/warning
>>>> messages on the console while it's booting up, which interupts the
>>>> usplash screen.
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> IMHO ext3 ain't good enough and ext4 is too experimental, you get a
>>> better
>>> file system by picking jfs, xfs or reiserfs.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I read on arstechnica this morning that google is converting its servers
>> to ext4 from ext2.
>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/google-upgrading-to-ext4-hires-former-linux-foundation-cto.ars
>
> Yea. Read that too. I wouldn't call ext4 experimental. J.O. what were
> you basing your comments on?

There were substantiated reports that ext4 could leave zero sized
files under certain conditions. Much controversy arose from this, some
people denied that it was a problem, but I believe that something was
done about it in the end.

i
From: Craig on 16 Jan 2010 18:25
On 01/16/2010 02:55 PM, Ignoramus25756 wrote:
> On 2010-01-16, Craig<netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/16/2010 06:45 AM, Thomas wrote:
>>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>>> Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>>>> I have my home folder mounted to a reiserfs filesystem. Though reiser is
>>>>> fine as a filesystem, it tends to spew out some informational/warning
>>>>> messages on the console while it's booting up, which interupts the
>>>>> usplash screen.
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> IMHO ext3 ain't good enough and ext4 is too experimental, you get a
>>>> better
>>>> file system by picking jfs, xfs or reiserfs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I read on arstechnica this morning that google is converting its servers
>>> to ext4 from ext2.
>>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/google-upgrading-to-ext4-hires-former-linux-foundation-cto.ars
>>
>> Yea. Read that too. I wouldn't call ext4 experimental. J.O. what were
>> you basing your comments on?
>
> There were substantiated reports that ext4 could leave zero sized
> files under certain conditions. Much controversy arose from this, some
> people denied that it was a problem, but I believe that something was
> done about it in the end.

OK, good. I remember seeing something about this but it was around the
time of the release of 9.04... And... here we go:

<http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354>
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781>

Both of these have been closed and reported as fixed (prior to 9.04's
release). Is there something else? Comments? Reason I ask is we're
looking to deploy ext4 on our desktops come 10.04...

tia,
--
-Craig
From: Ignoramus25756 on 16 Jan 2010 19:24
On 2010-01-16, Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/16/2010 02:55 PM, Ignoramus25756 wrote:
>> On 2010-01-16, Craig<netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/16/2010 06:45 AM, Thomas wrote:
>>>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>>>> Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>>>>> I have my home folder mounted to a reiserfs filesystem. Though reiser is
>>>>>> fine as a filesystem, it tends to spew out some informational/warning
>>>>>> messages on the console while it's booting up, which interupts the
>>>>>> usplash screen.
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO ext3 ain't good enough and ext4 is too experimental, you get a
>>>>> better
>>>>> file system by picking jfs, xfs or reiserfs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I read on arstechnica this morning that google is converting its servers
>>>> to ext4 from ext2.
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/google-upgrading-to-ext4-hires-former-linux-foundation-cto.ars
>>>
>>> Yea. Read that too. I wouldn't call ext4 experimental. J.O. what were
>>> you basing your comments on?
>>
>> There were substantiated reports that ext4 could leave zero sized
>> files under certain conditions. Much controversy arose from this, some
>> people denied that it was a problem, but I believe that something was
>> done about it in the end.
>
> OK, good. I remember seeing something about this but it was around the
> time of the release of 9.04... And... here we go:
>
><http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354>
><https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781>
>
> Both of these have been closed and reported as fixed (prior to 9.04's
> release). Is there something else? Comments? Reason I ask is we're
> looking to deploy ext4 on our desktops come 10.04...

The main reason for those zero sized files is OS crashes or loss of
power. It affects laptops more than desktops. All in all, I would
think that if this issue remained in it's original form, I would hear
a lot more complaints than I do.

ext3 is a great filesystem and I cannot see how you would be harmed if
you stayed on ext3.

i
From: Java Jive on 16 Jan 2010 20:23
I repeat my question - what was wrong with his post?

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:28:12 +0545, Kadaitcha Man <anon(a)no.email>
wrote:
>
> Wow! How terribly devastating. Not to mention original.
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From: Kadaitcha Man on 16 Jan 2010 21:03
"Java Jive", thou lean-witted whoremonger. Ah, you whoreson loggerhead,
you were born to do thyself shame. Ye stuttered:

> I repeat my que<BITCHSLAP>

You did not ask a question, tardlet. You made an assertion.
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