From: Paul on
Jo-Anne wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message
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>> Jo-Anne wrote:
>>> I've begun playing DVD movies on my WinXP laptop with VLC Media Player.
>>> Today, a brand new DVD kept "stuttering" all the way through. That is,
>>> both video and sound would completely stop and then, after a few seconds,
>>> resume. I thought the DVD was bad--but I played it on my WinXP desktop
>>> computer with the same media player, and it seemed to run mostly OK
>>> (although there were some places where I sensed very slight hesitations).
>>>
>>> Could it be a marginal DVD? And if so, is there a way of making it work
>>> better? (It's a DVD I bought a couple months ago, so I'm not sure I can
>>> return it.) I've played a few other DVD movies on the laptop without any
>>> stuttering.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jo-Anne
>> Have you Googled the name of the movie title, to see what protection
>> methods might have been applied to it ? They're always inventing
>> new and evil means of protecting content, and perhaps that is
>> what you've run into. (For example, it may play smooth in a real
>> DVD player connected to your TV, but stutter when played back on
>> a PC.)
>>
>> It could also be a problem with the manufacturing of the DVD itself.
>>
>> Programs like this one, can be used to scan the sectors of the media
>> and indicate whether there are problems reading the media.
>>
>> "Nero DiscSpeed 4.11.2.0"
>>
>> http://majorgeeks.com/Nero_DiscSpeed_d118.html
>>
>> There is also a disc quality scan option, that looks a bit like this.
>> If the graph goes into the thousands or tens of thousands of errors,
>> that might make the media stutter in the drive.
>>
>> http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/101055_nero-discspeed-quality.jpg
>>
>> You can use an approach like that, to test the disc. You would
>> compare the results, to some other, smoothly working DVD, to prove
>> it isn't the DVD drive itself.
>>
>> But I really recommend Googling the title of the movie itself,
>> because there may be many disgruntled buyers of the movie title
>> already, who have figured this out for you.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
> Thank you, Paul! I'll check out Nero DiscSpeed. I just Googled the movie and
> couldn't find anything about the regular DVD, although there seemed to be
> problems with the Blu-Ray version (not what I have). One person at Amazon
> complained that two out of four discs in a DVD set that included my movie
> stuttered but didn't specify this one. Mine came as one of four movies in a
> different set; I guess I'd better play the others soon to determine if
> they're OK.
>
> One other question, probably off-topic: Do there tend to be more quality
> issues in sets of unrelated DVD movies than in singles? The other movies
> I've played so far have been singles.
>
> Thank you again!
>
> Jo-Anne

I think I'd be a tiny bit concerned where these discs were coming from.
Are they legit ? Or are they counterfeits from China ? If the price was
too low, that might be a sign they've been pressed in somebody's basement.

You probably wouldn't have to look too hard, to find stories like this.

http://cathe.com/homeland-security-seizes-illegal-cathe-dvds

Paul
From: Jo-Anne on
"Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message
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> Jo-Anne wrote:
>> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message
>> news:i06vag$2k5$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Jo-Anne wrote:
>>>> I've begun playing DVD movies on my WinXP laptop with VLC Media Player.
>>>> Today, a brand new DVD kept "stuttering" all the way through. That is,
>>>> both video and sound would completely stop and then, after a few
>>>> seconds, resume. I thought the DVD was bad--but I played it on my WinXP
>>>> desktop computer with the same media player, and it seemed to run
>>>> mostly OK (although there were some places where I sensed very slight
>>>> hesitations).
>>>>
>>>> Could it be a marginal DVD? And if so, is there a way of making it work
>>>> better? (It's a DVD I bought a couple months ago, so I'm not sure I can
>>>> return it.) I've played a few other DVD movies on the laptop without
>>>> any stuttering.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Anne
>>> Have you Googled the name of the movie title, to see what protection
>>> methods might have been applied to it ? They're always inventing
>>> new and evil means of protecting content, and perhaps that is
>>> what you've run into. (For example, it may play smooth in a real
>>> DVD player connected to your TV, but stutter when played back on
>>> a PC.)
>>>
>>> It could also be a problem with the manufacturing of the DVD itself.
>>>
>>> Programs like this one, can be used to scan the sectors of the media
>>> and indicate whether there are problems reading the media.
>>>
>>> "Nero DiscSpeed 4.11.2.0"
>>>
>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Nero_DiscSpeed_d118.html
>>>
>>> There is also a disc quality scan option, that looks a bit like this.
>>> If the graph goes into the thousands or tens of thousands of errors,
>>> that might make the media stutter in the drive.
>>>
>>> http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/101055_nero-discspeed-quality.jpg
>>>
>>> You can use an approach like that, to test the disc. You would
>>> compare the results, to some other, smoothly working DVD, to prove
>>> it isn't the DVD drive itself.
>>>
>>> But I really recommend Googling the title of the movie itself,
>>> because there may be many disgruntled buyers of the movie title
>>> already, who have figured this out for you.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Paul! I'll check out Nero DiscSpeed. I just Googled the movie
>> and couldn't find anything about the regular DVD, although there seemed
>> to be problems with the Blu-Ray version (not what I have). One person at
>> Amazon complained that two out of four discs in a DVD set that included
>> my movie stuttered but didn't specify this one. Mine came as one of four
>> movies in a different set; I guess I'd better play the others soon to
>> determine if they're OK.
>>
>> One other question, probably off-topic: Do there tend to be more quality
>> issues in sets of unrelated DVD movies than in singles? The other movies
>> I've played so far have been singles.
>>
>> Thank you again!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>
> I think I'd be a tiny bit concerned where these discs were coming from.
> Are they legit ? Or are they counterfeits from China ? If the price was
> too low, that might be a sign they've been pressed in somebody's basement.
>
> You probably wouldn't have to look too hard, to find stories like this.
>
> http://cathe.com/homeland-security-seizes-illegal-cathe-dvds
>
> Paul


Hi, again, Paul,

I bought this set from a legitimate remainder company, Hamilton Books. It
wasn't all that cheap, although it was substantially less than the original
retail price, as is the case for remainders in general. Hamilton has been
around for a lotta years, and I've bought from them regularly without
problems. Daedalus Books & Music, another remainder company I buy from,
shows the same set as being remaindered at a slightly higher price than
Hamilton's.

I downloaded and installed Nero DiscSpeed and am now trying to figure out
how to use it.

Thank you!

Jo-Anne


From: pjp on
I've read the other replies but thought I'd throw this at ya also ...

When I encounter a "bad" cd-dvd one of the first things I do is attempt to
make a copy of the disk. This can be problamatic with copyrighted disks but
it can be more or less easily done.

For example, if it's a music disk try to rip the songs of it.

If it's a dvd movie, copy it using something like DVD Shrink.

If it's a straight data cd-dvd copy the files to your hard disk.

Then try and create a new disk from the above and see if that works better.

Or use a product that creates an image of the disk then mount that image in
a virtual drive see if that works.

"Jo-Anne" <Jo-Anne(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> I've begun playing DVD movies on my WinXP laptop with VLC Media Player.
> Today, a brand new DVD kept "stuttering" all the way through. That is,
> both video and sound would completely stop and then, after a few seconds,
> resume. I thought the DVD was bad--but I played it on my WinXP desktop
> computer with the same media player, and it seemed to run mostly OK
> (although there were some places where I sensed very slight hesitations).
>
> Could it be a marginal DVD? And if so, is there a way of making it work
> better? (It's a DVD I bought a couple months ago, so I'm not sure I can
> return it.) I've played a few other DVD movies on the laptop without any
> stuttering.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jo-Anne
>


From: Jo-Anne on
Thank you, pjp! It's something I vaguely thought of but wasn't sure it was
possible. I'll check out DVD Shrink if my old burning software won't do it.

Jo-Anne

"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I've read the other replies but thought I'd throw this at ya also ...
>
> When I encounter a "bad" cd-dvd one of the first things I do is attempt to
> make a copy of the disk. This can be problamatic with copyrighted disks
> but it can be more or less easily done.
>
> For example, if it's a music disk try to rip the songs of it.
>
> If it's a dvd movie, copy it using something like DVD Shrink.
>
> If it's a straight data cd-dvd copy the files to your hard disk.
>
> Then try and create a new disk from the above and see if that works
> better.
>
> Or use a product that creates an image of the disk then mount that image
> in a virtual drive see if that works.
>
> "Jo-Anne" <Jo-Anne(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:i06tee$6ke$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> I've begun playing DVD movies on my WinXP laptop with VLC Media Player.
>> Today, a brand new DVD kept "stuttering" all the way through. That is,
>> both video and sound would completely stop and then, after a few seconds,
>> resume. I thought the DVD was bad--but I played it on my WinXP desktop
>> computer with the same media player, and it seemed to run mostly OK
>> (although there were some places where I sensed very slight hesitations).
>>
>> Could it be a marginal DVD? And if so, is there a way of making it work
>> better? (It's a DVD I bought a couple months ago, so I'm not sure I can
>> return it.) I've played a few other DVD movies on the laptop without any
>> stuttering.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Jo-Anne
>>
>
>


From: smlunatick on
On Jun 27, 8:09 am, "Jo-Anne" <Jo-A...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
> I've begun playing DVD movies on my WinXP laptop with VLC Media Player.
> Today, a brand new DVD kept "stuttering" all the way through. That is, both
> video and sound would completely stop and then, after a few seconds, resume.
> I thought the DVD was bad--but I played it on my WinXP desktop computer with
> the same media player, and it seemed to run mostly OK (although there were
> some places where I sensed very slight hesitations).
>
> Could it be a marginal DVD? And if so, is there a way of making it work
> better? (It's a DVD I bought a couple months ago, so I'm not sure I can
> return it.) I've played a few other DVD movies on the laptop without any
> stuttering.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jo-Anne

FYI: DVD stuttering can be subject to other things than the security
of the disc. If your DVD drive uses a IDE / ATAPI / PATA connection,
you would probably need to have the correct UltraDMA drivers for you
motherboard. UltraDMA drivers tend to give better throughput than PIO
modes.

Also, RAM is very important. The more RAM available for the media
player the less likely the Windows would pause to swap out other
memory "chunks."

A finally, you might need to consider update the required media
CODECs.