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From: Nil on 2 Jul 2010 11:27
On 02 Jul 2010, "HeyBub" <heybub(a)gmail.com> wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> 2. Defragging a consumer computer, such as a laptop, is never
> needed and can, as you have demonstrated, result in lost time and
> much confusion.

I wouldn't say that. It can help improve performance if the files are
very fragmented and/or if the drive is getting full. An occasional
defrag is a good thing.

27% defragmented sounds high, but if there is lots of space left on the
drive, it really doesn't matter much. If the drive was quite full, I'd
clean up the drive by deleting as many unneeded files as possible, then
try defragging again. It might help to move data files temporarily to
another drive before defragging, then move them back when done.
Window's degragmenter doesn't do a very thorough job when the drive is
full. Some third-party products may do better. I like MyDefrag
(http://www.mydefrag.com/) and I run it once every month or three.

The OP may be confused by the analysis, but he has demonstrated nothing
about the desirability of defragmenting, and neither have you.
From: Roy S on 2 Jul 2010 17:36
In working with Norton Tech, I found Norton 360 uses Windows defragger and
there appears to be a problem with it in that a clean defragged disk reads
very high with it. Does anyone know a fix for Windows degrag analyzer?

"Roy S" wrote:

> I am not able to improve defrag of my laptop hard drive with 27%
> defragmentation per analysis using Windows or Norton 360 software. Do I need
> to reformat the hard drive and perform reinstallation? Any suggestions?
>
From: Unknown on 3 Jul 2010 10:24
Never needed is completely erroneous. It depends on how fragmented the drive
is. An occasional defrag is beneficial
in more than one way.
"HeyBub" <heybub(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uk9pEreGLHA.3640(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Roy S wrote:
>> I am not able to improve defrag of my laptop hard drive with 27%
>> defragmentation per analysis using Windows or Norton 360 software. Do
>> I need to reformat the hard drive and perform reinstallation? Any
>> suggestions?
>
> 1. Get rid of Norton.
> 2. Defragging a consumer computer, such as a laptop, is never needed and
> can, as you have demonstrated, result in lost time and much confusion.
>


From: rif on 2 Jul 2010 21:40

Norton 360 can be hard on resources and make your system slow, however
if defrag says your drive is 27% fragmented, that is high and you should
run defrag.

Defrag may not run properly if you drive is full or nearly full. Check
your drive and see how much disk space you have and see if you can
delete some files or programs.


From: HeyBub on 5 Jul 2010 15:21
Unknown wrote:
> Never needed is completely erroneous. It depends on how fragmented
> the drive is. An occasional defrag is beneficial
> in more than one way.

You're right. When I said "defrag is never needed" (on an NTFS drive), I was
exaggerating for the purpose of emphasis. For the average home user, once
every three to five years may help to a modest degree.

Oh, and the number of fragment on an NTFS system is irrelevant to the file
system's efficiency.


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