From: alexd on
Meanwhile, at the uk.comp.os.linux Job Justification Hearings, Jim Lesurf
chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 on a Shuttle as well as Xubuntu 9.10 on an Acer
> laptop. The Shutlle has a 'firewire' (4 pin) socket and the HD P2 has a (6
> pin) socket. The HD P2 documents say it should appear as a hard drive via
> firewire and - IIUC should be a standard mass storsge device. But when I
> try connecting them the Shuttle and HD P2 don't notice.

Anything in dmesg if you un/replug it?

> I did a few quick searches for Ubuntu and Firewire for this, but couldn't
> fine anything relevant. So should this work?

Not certain tbh; does the HD P2 have a PSU? Perhaps it's expecting power on
it's 6pin that the 4pin won't deliver?

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From: Jim Lesurf on
In article <1560672.lyArG6xLiZ(a)ale.cx>, alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Meanwhile, at the uk.comp.os.linux Job Justification Hearings, Jim
> Lesurf chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> > I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 on a Shuttle as well as Xubuntu 9.10 on an Acer
> > laptop. The Shutlle has a 'firewire' (4 pin) socket and the HD P2 has
> > a (6 pin) socket. The HD P2 documents say it should appear as a hard
> > drive via firewire and - IIUC should be a standard mass storsge
> > device. But when I try connecting them the Shuttle and HD P2 don't
> > notice.

> Anything in dmesg if you un/replug it?

I'll check and report back.

> > I did a few quick searches for Ubuntu and Firewire for this, but
> > couldn't fine anything relevant. So should this work?

> Not certain tbh; does the HD P2 have a PSU? Perhaps it's expecting power
> on it's 6pin that the 4pin won't deliver?

I was using the HD P2 with its own PSU. My understanding is that it won't
get power from the 4 pin on the Shuttle. The HD P2 manual says that it will
use power supplied via Firewire if that is available, but if not will
default to the HD P2's own PSU or batteries.

The HD P2 was certainly on and working. According to the manual its display
should change to show a 'warning' that it is connected via Firewire and
should not be switched off (or Firewire unplugged) until 'undocked' - by
which I assume it means unmounted. But the HD P2 display simply showed the
normal recorder status, etc. No sign it had detected being connected to a
computer.

Nor did the Shuttle show any sign of detecting or trying to mount the HD
P2. I had thought that it might do this automatically as it does with, say,
USB devices. When it didn't I wondered if there was an action I needed to
take to tell Ubuntu to find the Firewire device and mount it. But I then
couldn't find out about that.

Looked in some of the books I have, and tried a few web searches. But I
didn't come up with anything that shed light on using Firewire for
connecting devices like this. Again IIUC the HD P2 manual correctly it
should behave like a bog standard memory storage device. But I know
essentially zero about Firewire as I've never used it before. My impression
is that Firewire isn't used much, so I am wondering if the default Ubuntu
install essentially ignores it. But I have no idea. Very likely I haven't
made the right settings somewhere! :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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