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From: avimia on 9 Mar 2010 13:28 Hello experts, Just a general question about FrontPage. Is it "going away" and being completely replaced with Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 and Microsoft Expression Web? We have a number of folks who do some minor work on pages, though they are not web dev. So, their concern of course, is having to move to a whole new program to do this. Any ideas on what we need to prepare them for? Thanks
From: Hot-text on 9 Mar 2010 13:53 Where you been? For they stop make FrontPage a long time a go! And web server will one by one stop using FrontPage Add-ons too! Some web server have started already! "avimia" <avimia(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E8572F46-BA89-4283-9DFB-C51A7595CA5A(a)microsoft.com... > Hello experts, > > Just a general question about FrontPage. Is it "going away" and being > completely replaced with Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 and > Microsoft Expression Web? > > We have a number of folks who do some minor work on pages, though they are > not web dev. So, their concern of course, is having to move to a whole new > program to do this. > > Any ideas on what we need to prepare them for? > > Thanks
From: Ronx on 9 Mar 2010 14:05 The last ever version of FrontPage is FrontPage 2003. There will never be any updates or upgrades to this version, and it is no longer even supported by Microsoft. As you said, the replacements are SharePoint Designer and Expression Web. Note that these are REPLACEMENTS, not upgrades. -- Ron Symonds Microsoft MVP (Expression Web) http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp/wf-menu.aspx avimia expressed precisely : > Hello experts, > Just a general question about FrontPage. Is it > "going away" and being completely replaced > with Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 > and Microsoft Expression Web? > We have a number of folks who do some minor > work on pages, though they are not web dev. > So, their concern of course, is having to move > to a whole new program to do this. > Any ideas on what we need to prepare them for? > Thanks
From: Rick Sparks on 9 Mar 2010 21:47 From a Microsoft perspective, FrontPage went away a long time ago. There is no more support (except here and similar forums), no more updates, and no more product available (except Amazon, ebay and others.) From a user perspective, there is no equivalent replacement and no reason to leave. Nothing is as intuitive or user-friendly... including the Microsoft products that replaced FrontPage. The new products 'write cleaner code', but they require you to learn code. You'll need to learn HTML and CSS.. which some would argue isn't that tough, but generally those saying that are people that are already very comfortable with writing code. I vote for user friendly. So why not just stay with FrontPage? Well, you could (I am), but there's one catch. Since FrontPage has been discontinued, so have FrontPage Extensions (FPE) that are required to be run on your hosts' computer to take advantage of some/ much of the user-friendliness of FrontPage. Some hosts, especially the big ones, have or will discontinue support for FPE, as they are no longer available or supported by MS. (That said, some of the big hosting companies aren't exactly known for great customer service anyway, so no loss! ) Many others, thankfully, will find a way to continue to provide them for the future... probably quite long-term..... simply because so many people want them! See my post below in 'Any Hosting Recommendations?' for more on that. FPE will be here for many years. So, from my perspective, FrontPage is very much alive and is staying ! "avimia" wrote: > Hello experts, > > Just a general question about FrontPage. Is it "going away" and being > completely replaced with Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 and > Microsoft Expression Web? > > We have a number of folks who do some minor work on pages, though they are > not web dev. So, their concern of course, is having to move to a whole new > program to do this. > > Any ideas on what we need to prepare them for? > > Thanks
From: Tina Clarke on 18 Mar 2010 22:52
"avimia" <avimia(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E8572F46-BA89-4283-9DFB-C51A7595CA5A(a)microsoft.com... > Hello experts, > > Just a general question about FrontPage. Is it "going away" and being > completely replaced with Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 and > Microsoft Expression Web? > > We have a number of folks who do some minor work on pages, though they are > not web dev. So, their concern of course, is having to move to a whole new > program to do this. > > Any ideas on what we need to prepare them for? > > Thanks Yep its already 'gone away' .... we are on expression web 3.0 now and its the successor to frontpage. SharePoint designer is .. well I think sp 10 is in beta not sure but 07 is free. If all your users are doing is changing some text .. you don't need to move them to a new prog...in fact you could even use a cms like contentseed.com for that what is in question is your host supporting fpse (frontpage server extensions) if you host is going to do away with them soon or in the future and your site has to use them .. then suggest you move away from using the bots... contrary to some other users opinion ... frontpage is not user friendly and never was .. my flustration over the years has always been to do with the bots breaking down in one form or another (we all know the ways they can do so) .. which led me to looking at what else I could do ... first came fp includes.... over shared borders and nav bots .... includes are still in use (the only one and a special case) in ew which work or without fpse .... since navigation is the key a site ... the rest followed pretty easily and because I moved up each version when I got to fp03... it became easy to learn css ... along with using topstyle lite .... but then ew comes out and you can do everything in it .... i wish i had had it when i was a newbie with frontpage express and wanted to do more ... because ew has error reporting .... its much easier to keep an eye on errors too. So are you using this on an intranet? .. if so then you don't need to bother doing anything if not then you need to look at what you are using...with regards to the fpse and what bots you are using. the best time to change is always right now before the site gets any bigger .... its much easier when you say what version you are using and the link to your site .. we can give better advice then So take a look at those needs and balance it against training and new sw. don't forget you can upgrade if you already have fp (or some other products) right now is a good time to do it .. in the usa there is a deal on at the ms store for 40% off but thats for the whole expressino web studio suite however. - Upgrade to Expression Web 3.0 http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/Upgrade.aspx Trial of Expression Web 3.0 http://www.microsoft.com/expression/try-it/Default.aspx?filter=web3 Overview demos and starter kits http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/Web_Overview.aspx#tabs-3 hth Tina Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web Ebook v2.0 New version includes help for EW 3.0 Find out how to transition from fp to ew with ease http://www.frontpage-to-expression.com/ebook.html |