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From: Ant on 16 Oct 2009 22:52 No XFX, EVGA, etc.? :( On 10/15/2009 5:37 PM PT, First of One typed: > Interesting failure statistics from a "large French e-retailer" covering > parts sold between September 2008 and March 2009. > > Failure rate by brand: > - PNY 1.69% > - ASUSTeK 1.71% > - MSI 2.05% > - Gigabyte 2.63% > - Sapphire 2.7% > - Gainward 3.15% > - Point Of View 4.67% > > PNY seems to be doing quite well. > > Failure rate by chipset: > - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 : 2.4% > - ATI Radeon HD 4850 : 3.3% > - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 : 6.5% > - ATI Radeon HD 4870 : 6.1% > - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 : 8.3% > - ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 : 10.5% > > The GTX 295 is more reliable than the GTX 280, despite its greater > complexity. > > Article is in French, so use Google Translate if required: > http://www.hardware.fr/articles/773-5/taux-pannes-composants.html -- "Busy as ants hurrying orcs were digging, digging lines of deep trenches in a huge ring, just out of bowshot from the walls;" --The Return of the King (book) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Meat Eaters are Sinners - Repent! on 18 Oct 2009 22:26 First of One wrote: > Failure rate by chipset: > - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 : 2.4% > - ATI Radeon HD 4850 : 3.3% > - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 : 6.5% > - ATI Radeon HD 4870 : 6.1% > - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 : 8.3% > - ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 : 10.5% > - Nvidia Geforce 7900GT : 80% IMO
From: Ant on 19 Oct 2009 09:56 On 10/18/2009 7:26 PM PT, Meat Eaters are Sinners - Repent! typed: > First of One wrote: > >> Failure rate by chipset: >> - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 : 2.4% >> - ATI Radeon HD 4850 : 3.3% >> - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 : 6.5% >> - ATI Radeon HD 4870 : 6.1% >> - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 : 8.3% >> - ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 : 10.5% > > - Nvidia Geforce 7900GT : 80% > > IMO Hmm, maybe that is why my EVGA GeForce 7950 GT KO (512 MB)'s fan stopped working. At least EVGA's unlimited warranty rocks since I got a GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB) as a replacement, but its warranty is only for a year. :( -- "Ant colonies are remarkably similar to cities. No one choreographs the action, not even the queen ant, but ant behavior is controlled by swarm logic--put 10,000 dumb ants together, and they become smart. They will calculate the shortest routes to food supplies sniffing out pheromone signals from other ants and Johnson says people do the same thing in cities using low-level interactions of people on the street." --Alex Cukan, "Stories of modern science," United Press International, October 8, 2001 /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: First of One on 20 Oct 2009 02:06 "Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert(a)gmx.de> wrote in message news:7jqdidF37almeU1(a)mid.individual.net... > For example, PNY hardly is the brand choosen by gamers that want to > overclock. Those that show the high return rates on the other sides are > brands that aim on the "enthusiast" market (gamers) with > factory-overclocked products. Such products are probably overclocked even > more, and often also modified (i.e. by replacing the cooler). That is one school of thought. The other school of thought says the Golden Samples are purchased by "armchair" enthusiasts who like the idea of overclocking, but prefer to let the factory do it for them under warranty. The return rates more likely indicate that despite Gainward's best efforts with stress screening, the factory overclocking did result in slightly more failures... which may be okay for Gainward, because its profit margins on the overclocked cards are higher. > The chipset statistics is equally useless. There very likely is no > relaibility difference between a GTX 260 or GTX 280 GPU itself, The GTX 260 and 280 share the same GT200 core, same cooler, but the GTX 280 generates more heat even at reference clocks. On what basis do you think there is no reliability difference between the two GPU tiers? > At the end of the day it is just what it is, a return statistics of a > certain french retailer. It however says nothing about the reliability > of a specific gfx card brand or chipset. On the contrary, the return statistics take a real-world cross section of current products. If you are shopping for a card, you'll trip over all kinds of overclocked cards. Hell, AMD claims to have lowered the reference clocks on some cards (e.g. HD4890), just so board vendors can artificially create "overclocked" SKUs. With a sufficiently large sample size (as it was in this case), the average return rate per brand or chipset is representative of what a buyer may see. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
From: Ant on 20 Oct 2009 16:43
> >Hmm, maybe that is why my EVGA GeForce 7950 GT KO (512 MB)'s fan stopped > >working. At least EVGA's unlimited warranty rocks since I got a GeForce > >8800 GT (512 MB) as a replacement, but its warranty is only for a year. :( > Problem with 7900GT was that the ram on many cards that companies like > EVGA were overclcoking it to just could not do. Many people had issues > with 7900GT. What type of issues from OC speed? Like lock ups, blue screens, fan deaths, etc.? -- [Laser pulsing] "Bah. It's as easy as crushing an ant! You know, the..." [grunting] "Wh-wh-whoa! Hey, take my wallet and leave me alone!" --Mr. Burns from The Simpsons (Fraudcast News; FABF16/FABF18 episode) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) |