Historic treason of Communist, socialist, social-democrat movements.
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From: Goldy on 7 Aug 2010 15:23 True communism has never really existed anywhere in the world. True communism is a world without money, without the constant threat of violence made by governments, without governmental oppression and without people allowed to die of hunger and diseases. This may sound utopian to you but I think society should be more accepting of utopia. Every day, over 150000 people and especially African children die of curable diseases and hunger. Now the problem with poverty is that it is self-perpetuating. People who are too sick and hungry cannot work which in turn perpetuates and worsens their poverty. This should be not allowed in a true communist society.
From: hanson on 9 Aug 2010 00:15
"Goldy" from Israel <uriz1(a)bezeqint.net> wrote: .... about "Historic treason of Communist, socialist, social-democrat movements... and s/he lamented: True communism has never really existed anywhere in the world. True communism is a world without money, without the constant threat of violence made by governments, without governmental oppression and without people allowed to die of hunger and diseases. This may sound utopian to you but I think society should be more accepting of utopia. > hanson wrote: ahahahahahahaha... nice "Goldy-dream"... But apparently you do not yet know that a) Utopia has been, is and will always be here, in/under any form of government ... as long as you belong in/to its ruling class, that upper-crust of the privileged 10'000..... ahahahaha... b) Utopia has never been, nor is and will never be here, in/under any form of government ... as long as you are one of the peons and peasants on whose labor, sweat, tears and blood the upper 10'000 do rest their debauched laurels... ahahahaha... > Here are the lectures, given by professional talking heads on the subjects, related to this topic & as can be seen their opinions are or are not congruent with your own notions that you've expressed above:: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhG4yJByfrE> 5 types of Govts. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDS1OHk7Lf8> Main forms of Govts. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEFA4uOPnV8> Oligarchy & Republic < http://www.wimp.com/templegrandin/ > all kind of minds < http://www.wimp.com/howlive/ > more centenarians. < http://www.wimp.com/michaelwesch/ > 1983 Huxley vs. Orwell <http://www.wimp.com/worldcollapse/> econo collapse 2010 <http://www.wimp.com/futurecivilization/ > Year 2057 > Underlaying all these pontifications is the old & overriding adage that: *** "The only thing that never changes is change itself." *** So go with the flow and try to float up to where the upper crust is See, there is hope. No matter what. Enjoy & thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson |