From: Ed Crowley [MVP] on
It is not my experience that "most companies" have a 10MB limit. Microsoft
does, but that number is hardly uniform. My experience is that limits are
all over the place.
--
Ed Crowley MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
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"ed" <ed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:72F15F3B-280F-479B-9E82-2A365717DB0F(a)microsoft.com...
> Thanks for all sharing and help.
>
> Just for sharing: So, from IT to top manager of company to propose 150MB
> limit on the size of email, they even can not allow us to do it.
>
> I know most companies have 10MB limit. We have 150 MB limit and then we
> are
> not allowed to do it. What are your company's limit?
>
> Thank you.
>
> "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" wrote:
>
>> Terrible business practice.
>>
>> The JET database on which Exchange runs was not designed for this. Here
>> is
>> what happens when Exchange gets hit with a 500MB attachment - 100 5MB
>> transaction logs are generated!
>>
>> You can't even take advantage of single instance store in this scenario.
>>
>> May I suggest gently introducing them to Sharepoint workflow? They will
>> like
>> it due to built-in version control and it integrates well with Outlook.
>>
>> This was possible long ago
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ork2003/HA011402701033.aspx (historical
>> stuff about Sharepoint 2.0 and Outlook 2003)
>>
>> This article is a bit more modern
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA100819571033.aspx (Outlook
>> 2007
>> and Sharepoint 3.0) - note how it seemlessly integrates file libraries
>> without placing the burden on your Exchange server? You also gain
>> auditing
>> and versioning. It's a better solution.
>>
>> You can be evil like me :) and find a constraint. For example - the
>> server
>> backup no longer fits on one tape. The mailstore is approaching 75GB
>> limit.
>> --
>> Leonid S. Knyshov
>> Crashproof Solutions
>> 510-282-1008
>> Twitter: @wiseleo
>> http://crashproofsolutions.com
>> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>> Please vote "helpful" if I helped you :)
>>
>>
>> "ed" wrote:
>>
>> > Ed, thank you.
>> >
>> > Sorry. I mean internal messages When users inside organization send
>> > to
>> > other users inside organization.
>> >
>> > unfortunately, we can not set limit due to bussiness requirement.
>> > users at
>> > our company treat our mail server as our file server and send large
>> > files
>> > (more than 500MB) to other users INSIDE organization. Also, we are not
>> > allowed to put limit on
>> > mails we send or receive externally.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to put limit on mails when users INSIDE company send to
>> > other
>> > users inside company? But, no limit on mails send to or receive from
>> > external company (not our company)???
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> > > What do you mean by "INTERNAL USERS"? You have internal and external
>> > > users?
>> > > Message limits are applied at points where messages flow:
>> > > - Globally, which applies to all messages sent anywhere
>> > > - Mailbox store, which applies to all mailboxes in the store
>> > > - Mailbox-enabled user, which applies to that user only
>> > > - Distribution group, which applies to mail sent through the DG
>> > > - Public folder, which applies to mail sent to it
>> > > - Connectors, which applies to mail sent through them
>> > > - SMTP virtual server, which applies to mail sent through them
>> > > The limit that applies is the minimum that is in effect at any point
>> > > in the
>> > > message route. I don't see any practical way to enforce limits sent
>> > > interanlly that is smaller than sent externally. And, if you think
>> > > about
>> > > it, what you want makes no sense. Messages sent outside your
>> > > organization
>> > > must first travel through it.
>> > > --
>> > > Ed Crowley MVP
>> > > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
>> > > problems."
>> > > ..
>> > >
>> > > "ed" <ed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1F66AE27-3F0B-4520-8B6F-72B64598CDC0(a)microsoft.com...
>> > > > Thanksfor your help.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I put limit on the global settings, will it apply to all emails
>> > > > which
>> > > > include external emails too?
>> > > >
>> > > > I only need to set attachment limit on INTERNAL USERS.
>> > > >
>> > > > ANY IDEA?
>> > > >
>> > > > "Vinkie" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Yes, there is a way.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> In ESM 'Global Settings', 'Message Delivery', 'Defaults' tab.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "ed" <ed(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > >> news:5D874D13-1B39-4A4A-A194-CA99E488F62B(a)microsoft.com...
>> > > >> > Hi all,
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > exchnage 2003 sp2/outlook 2003
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > since we can not set any limit on the message size, most
>> > > >> > internal users
>> > > >> > send
>> > > >> > large size attachment each other. some times, it will cause our
>> > > >> > mail
>> > > >> > server
>> > > >> > queued up and delay messages delivery.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Just wonder is there a way to set size on the internal messages
>> > > >> > (inside
>> > > >> > organization)?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Thank you.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> .
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > > .
>> > >

From: Asher_N on
"Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice(a)nospam.net> wrote in
news:#tpsZy0tKHA.928(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> It is not my experience that "most companies" have a 10MB limit.
> Microsoft does, but that number is hardly uniform. My experience is
> that limits are all over the place.

10MB is paltry these days. I'd approach it another way. Make a cost
analysis of storage, backup and required server upgrades to support the
emailing of such attachments. Then either impose quotas or spend the money
and upgrade.

It's not I.T.'s role to impose limits. It is our role to present
cost/benifit analysis to different scenarios and implement them.