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From: Patrick Phillips on 16 Oct 2009 18:36 David Bolt wrote: > This is where the issue of trust comes into it. You'll need to know > about a download location where you know you are you going to get an > unmodified Live CD from, and that you can check it to make sure it's > not been tampered with. > Build and burn your own little custom banking Linux distro for use only with your online bank...be sure its based on Ubuntu, you could call it something like BankBuntu Linux..least I don't think this ones been built as of yet. -- Patrick... sig under construction
From: David Bolt on 17 Oct 2009 07:11 On Friday 16 Oct 2009 23:36, Patrick Phillips played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > Build and burn your own little custom banking Linux distro for use only > with your online bank... That's one good way of doing it. With enough effort, you could use kiwi to create the appliance. > be sure its based on Ubuntu, Why would you want to build one based upon Ubuntu? Wouldn't creating an openSUSE based one do as good/better? It's quite possible to do so using susestudio and, with a list of the login pages for the various banks, could be knocked up in probably less than 45 minutes including the build and testing times. > you could call it > something like BankBuntu Linux.. Or maybe BankSUSE? > least I don't think this ones been built > as of yet. Well, BankSUSE 0.0.1 and 0.0.2 has been built. 0.0.1 took just over 5 mins to build and, after making some configuration changes and saving them for inclusion in 0.0.2, the second version was built. The total time for building both versions was less than 30 mins, including about 10 mins testing, configuring, etc. A final build of a Live CD image took a further 6:28 mins, and created an ISO image of 231MiB. Now, I could leave it at that and let the user remember what the login page is for their bank(s), or I could create a bookmarks file with a selection of login pages for the various banks and create 0.0.3. Finally, purely for those that have a susestudio account and can repeat the build process, I started with a Minimal X server as a basis, added the packages firefox, firefox-translations and firefox-branding-openSUSE. I tweaked to the Firefox config and .xinitrc modified to auto-start Firefox. Since it's using IceWM as the window manager, there isn't an auto-login as there's an issue with the keyboard[0] where a non-KDE/Gnome desktop is auto-loaded. The same could be done using a KDE or Gnome desktop environment and auto-login enabled without keyboard issues, but the size of the ISO would most likely grow by 100MiB[1], and quite probably even more. XFCE or WindowMaker could also be used, but these still suffer from the keyboard issue and so no auto-login could be used. [0] For some reason, as yet not fixed, auto-login for the non-KDE/Gnome desktops leaves the user with an unresponsive keyboard. Returning to the log-in screen re-enables the keyboard but, due to this issue, means that auto-login can't be used for desktops other than KDE or Gnome. [1] Total size for a KDE3 based BankSUSE CD was 344MiB, so that's 113MiB more than the lighter weight desktop version. KDE4 will most likely be about the same, and Gnome may be a little less. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2rc1 RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
From: Vahis on 17 Oct 2009 07:36 On 2009-10-17, David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: <snip> > Finally, purely for those that have a susestudio account and can repeat > the build process, I started with a Minimal X server as a basis, added > the packages firefox, firefox-translations and > firefox-branding-openSUSE. I've tried it but I haven't played much with the Studio (never downloaded or installed any of my cookings) so I'm asking a perhaps silly question: Can the images be made USB stick ones there? I've put Milestone Live images from Suse on sticks and they work just fine but the netinstall ones have not booted, they seemingly need to be put on a CD. What kind of images can one create in Studio? Vahis -- "Sunrise 8:07am (EEST), sunset 6:03pm (EEST) at Espoo, Finland (9:56 hours daylight)" http://waxborg.servepics.com Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-default #1 SMP 2009-08-14 01:48:11 +0200 x86_64 2:23pm up 25 days 21:03, 17 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08
From: Vahis on 17 Oct 2009 10:09 On 2009-10-17, houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: > Vahis wrote: >> Can the images be made USB stick ones there? > > Yes. > >> I've put Milestone Live images from Suse on sticks and they work just >> fine but the netinstall ones have not booted, they seemingly need to be >> put on a CD. >> >> What kind of images can one create in Studio? > > 5 types basicaly > 1) USB stick/HD image. This is the default > 2) CD/DVD ISO. This will warn to install the live installer as well > 3) VMWare/VirtualBox (.vmdk) Not tried that yet > 4) XEN Not tried that yet > 5) Export your settings to Kiwi configuration > > Besides that, you can add repo's like Packman, so you can make a liveDVD > with MPlayer on it. Or any RPM. You can also run scripts and edit files > and add files and ... > > Well, almost anything > The live images of Milestones and now rc1 (oops, sorry, I'm doing it again) are said to hybrid, that is they can be put on CD or on a stick. The netinstall.isos are not hybrid seemingly, they don't boot if you put them on a stick. Why? Or maybe it's just me... How do you make a USB stick netinstallthingy? Vahis -- "Sunrise 8:07am (EEST), sunset 6:03pm (EEST) at Espoo, Finland (9:56 hours daylight)" http://waxborg.servepics.com Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-default #1 SMP 2009-08-14 01:48:11 +0200 x86_64 5:05pm up 25 days 23:45, 17 users, load average: 0.16, 0.19, 0.19
From: David Bolt on 17 Oct 2009 13:23 On Saturday 17 Oct 2009 18:13, David Bolt played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > On Saturday 17 Oct 2009 16:28, houghi played with alphabet spaghetti > and left this residue on the plate: >> ssh might be an option, for now. Also not yet restricted to just that >> bank, so I am having fun trying to get to say playboy.com > > Might try adding the specific hostnames to the /etc/hosts file and then > disabling name server lookups. That might be an issue with the > malicious website protection in Firefox. Scrub that idea. It would break many sites as a lot tend to have items spread over a wide variety of servers. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2rc1 RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
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