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From: wolf_tracks on 10 Aug 2010 18:35 This is strange. Undermsnew.microsoft.com NG server I have 10 NGs. I just tried accessing several of them. microsoft.public.outlook is one. I'm getting msgs that they do not exist on the host. What's up with that? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39� 15' 7" N, 121� 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Solid waste produced to generate electricity per person over a lifetime: Nuclear power -- 2 pounds in a coke can Fossil (coal) fuel -- 68.5 tons in six 12-ton RR cars -- Power to Save the World, Gwyneth Cravens Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/>
From: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" on 10 Aug 2010 19:44 wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com wrote: > This is strange. Undermsnew.microsoft.com NG server I have 10 NGs. I > just tried accessing several of them. microsoft.public.outlook is > one. I'm getting msgs that they do not exist on the host. What's up > with that? Microsoft is going out of the NNTP business infavor of web based forums (yuk!). Many of the groups (including this one) are also carried on Usenet servers. You might look for your missing groups there. -- Crash "Something there is that doesn't love a wall, that wants it down." ~ Robert Frost ~
From: Shenan Stanley on 10 Aug 2010 19:44 wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com wrote: > This is strange. Undermsnew.microsoft.com NG server I have 10 NGs. I > just tried accessing several of them. microsoft.public.outlook is > one. I'm getting msgs that they do not exist on the host. What's up > with that? Must be just you... -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
From: Shenan Stanley on 10 Aug 2010 19:53 Shenan Stanley wrote: > Must be just you... Wait wait... No. Perhaps this announcement made several times over in all the Microsoft newsgroups over the many months might help: What is Happening? This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue the discussion. Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to NNTP(a)microsoft.com Do I have to install anything in order to use the forums? The forums themselves are web based. You can get access via browser: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/posfordotnet/threads -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
From: Mayayana on 10 Aug 2010 20:08
As Dave "Crash" Dummy said, MS is closing down their server. Shenan Stanley has provided Microsoft's explanation, but that's pretty much useless. The new web forums are unusable, and moderated by MS people. The "bridge" software to emulate a proper newsreader for the web forums has received bad reviews from people using it. The gist of it is that MS has discontinued hosting customer discussion and help groups on Usenet. But Usenet is decentralized, so many of the servers will continue to host the groups. You just have to switch your server from MS to your ISP or other Usenet server. Most should have the MS groups. I'm using a free server connection from eternal-september.org. It seems to work well. | This is strange. Undermsnew.microsoft.com NG server I have 10 NGs. I | just tried accessing several of them. microsoft.public.outlook is one. | I'm getting msgs that they do not exist on the host. What's up with that? |