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From: Barry Margolin on 2 Aug 2010 15:52
In article <2010080220471364056-usenetuser(a)mecom>,
Stephen <usenetuser(a)me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-08-02 19:33:18 +0100, nospam said:
>
> > In article <siegman-733E8D.11201602082010(a)sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
> > AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Question is: should I just transfer all my old files (everything in my
> >> User folder anyway) over from old machine to new using Migration
> >> Assistant, then try to clean up cruft on the new machine?
> >>
> >> Or, is it worth the trouble to fire up the new machine, connect old
> >> machine in Target Disk mode, and start either cautiously copying stuff
> >> over or reinstalling apps or utilities if I have original DVDs or disk
> >> images -- gradually rebuilding the new machine?
> >
> > use migration assistant. it works *very* well. just about everything is
> > copied.
> >
> >> (And, is there a built-in Uninstaller in Snow Leopard? Or a recommended
> >> third party Uninstaller for it?)
> >
> > uninstall by dragging to trash and the few exceptions come with their
> > own uninstaller, e.g., adobe creative suite. there is also very little
> > need to uninstall anything since all it does is take up space if it's
> > not used. there is no registry corruption or any of that nonsense.
>
> Is migration assistant smart enought to leave orphaned files ie.
> Application Support files where the application has been deleted, or
> does it just do a file copy from old to new regardless of whether the
> files are needed or not? Thanks.

I think it copies all the prefs, since you might choose to migrate
applications and accounts separately. Or you might want to install the
apps by hand later, and your old preferences should be maintained.

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Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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From: JF Mezei on 2 Aug 2010 16:39
Use migration assistant.

Afterwards, on your new mac, run the Utilities/System Profiler and get
the list of all applications. You should then be able to see which are
"classic" applications which would no longer work on Leopard. You can
delete those manually.

Before you do this, remember to install Rosetta on your new Mac. It
doesn't come pre-installed anymore. If you have any PPC apps left, you
will need it. It is in the Leopard DVD. (Leopard = Snow Leopard for the
purposes of this message).

Note that migration assistant doeasn't do EVERYTHING. For instance, the
NFS mounts are now done differently, this has to be done manually. Same
with various "defaults write" commands you may have had to customise
your system, enable services such as telnet etc.
From: AES on 2 Aug 2010 17:47
In article <i37303$os3$02$1(a)news.t-online.com>,
Michael Kallweitt <M.Kallweitt(a)gmx.de> wrote:

> > (And, is there a built-in Uninstaller in Snow Leopard? Or a recommended
> > third party Uninstaller for it?)
>
> To uninstall what? There are 3rd party apps to remove leftovers from deleted
> applications.
>

A site or blog called "http://www.softwarebattle.com/" (which doesn't
seem to be live at this point) published a "shootout" between 7 or 8
freeware apps of this type in 2008 under the title:

Mac OS X App Remover Shootout: 7 Uninstallers

noting that it was doing so because Tiger did not seem to have any such
app built-in.

I suppose one might want to use such an uninstaller app to remove some
unwanted app and all its leftovers, or to track down and remove just the
leftovers if an unwanted app has already been deleted.
From: Phillip Jones on 2 Aug 2010 20:31
Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article<2010080220471364056-usenetuser(a)mecom>,
> Stephen<usenetuser(a)me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-02 19:33:18 +0100, nospam said:
>>
>>> In article<siegman-733E8D.11201602082010(a)sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
>>> AES<siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Question is: should I just transfer all my old files (everything in my
>>>> User folder anyway) over from old machine to new using Migration
>>>> Assistant, then try to clean up cruft on the new machine?
>>>>
>>>> Or, is it worth the trouble to fire up the new machine, connect old
>>>> machine in Target Disk mode, and start either cautiously copying stuff
>>>> over or reinstalling apps or utilities if I have original DVDs or disk
>>>> images -- gradually rebuilding the new machine?
>>>
>>> use migration assistant. it works *very* well. just about everything is
>>> copied.
>>>
>>>> (And, is there a built-in Uninstaller in Snow Leopard? Or a recommended
>>>> third party Uninstaller for it?)
>>>
>>> uninstall by dragging to trash and the few exceptions come with their
>>> own uninstaller, e.g., adobe creative suite. there is also very little
>>> need to uninstall anything since all it does is take up space if it's
>>> not used. there is no registry corruption or any of that nonsense.
>>
>> Is migration assistant smart enought to leave orphaned files ie.
>> Application Support files where the application has been deleted, or
>> does it just do a file copy from old to new regardless of whether the
>> files are needed or not? Thanks.
>
> I think it copies all the prefs, since you might choose to migrate
> applications and accounts separately. Or you might want to install the
> apps by hand later, and your old preferences should be maintained.
>
Will not copy any system applications or any apple (iWork/ iLife)
applications older than on the newer OS. would bring over preferences if
they are compatible will bring over files. (Such as Photos Music)

--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: John Varela on 3 Aug 2010 22:44
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 00:31:32 UTC, Phillip Jones
<pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:

> Will not copy any system applications or any apple (iWork/ iLife)
> applications older than on the newer OS. would bring over preferences if
> they are compatible will bring over files. (Such as Photos Music)

Will not copy Apple applications NEWER than on the newer OS, either.
I just migrated to a new iMac and was mildly disconcerted when
iPhoto wouldn't display individual photos and iTunes wouldn't play
music. Software Update fixed that.

--
John Varela
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