From: John on
Is there a way to minimize Outlook 2007 by clicking on the X button?
From: dlw on
you mean "close" it but still have it notify you of new mail? No, but there
are 3rd party applications that do that.

"John" wrote:

> Is there a way to minimize Outlook 2007 by clicking on the X button?
> .
>
From: John on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:34:02 -0700, dlw wrote:

> you mean "close" it but still have it notify you of new mail? No, but there
> are 3rd party applications that do that.
>
> "John" wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to minimize Outlook 2007 by clicking on the X button?
>> .
>>

Would you have a link for these applications please?
From: VanguardLH on
John wrote:

> dlw wrote:
>
>> John wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to minimize Outlook 2007 by clicking on the X button?
>>
>> you mean "close" it but still have it notify you of new mail? No,
>> but there are 3rd party applications that do that.
>
> Would you have a link for these applications please?

PopTray
Magic Mail Monitor

and many others found via Google, like:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%2Bfree+%2Be-mail+monitor

You could also search at common download sites, like:

http://www.download.com/
http://www.softpedia.com/

Be aware that most e-mail monitors only work with POP. You didn't
mention what type of e-mail accounts you use (POP, IMAP, HTTP/Deltasync,
or Exchange).

Also be aware that most of these e-mail monitors will consume as much
memory, if not more, than does Outlook. When Outlook is minimized to a
system tray, it relinquishes the GUI resources it needs to paint its
window. This means the resident process for outlook.exe becomes small.
You can see the memory footprint change in Task Manager's Processes tab
when you open the Outlook window and when you minimize it to a tray
icon. Some e-mail monitors do not relinquish their GUI resources so
they are just as big in memory whether their window is displayed or not.
In fact, some e-mail monitors consume more memory than does Outlook when
Outlook's window is displayed. So you really don't end up saving on any
resources by closing Outlook and using an e-mail monitor in its place.

Some e-mail monitors, like the ones that I mentioned above, let you
define rules. You can equate some if not most or all of your Outlook
rules to those you can define inside these e-mail monitors. However,
most e-mail monitors are fairly simplistic and you get no means of
filtering your incoming e-mails.

The only advantage that I've found in using an e-mail monitor over
leaving Outlook minimized to a tray icon is eliminating the bogus errors
that Outlook generates. POP only has 2 statuses: +OK and -ERR. Any
comments the server sends back with the status are non-standard strings
and cannot be used to test the result of a command sent by the client to
the server. So when the server fails to establish a mail session, times
out, or has other problems, all it can send back (if it sends anything)
is the single -ERR code. During a mail establishment, Outlook only
knows it got back an -ERR code and so it reports (often wrongly) that
your login failed. All Outlook knows is that the server failed to
establish a mail session but not really why. Alas, Outlook has no
option to hide its error messages. When the login fails, Outlook shoves
a popup on the screen telling you of the failure. However, if you are
polling your account every 10 minutes for a total of 144 mail polls per
day, you probably don't care if you missed a couple mail polls. This is
why I don't bother using Outlook to connect to my Hotmail accounts via
POP (or their Connector) because Hotmail is not a reliable enough
service to eliminate seeing these bogus prompts (I use my Gmail account
to poll my Hotmail accounts because I don't have login failures with
Gmail). Using an e-mail monitor often helps to eliminate the noise
because some of them have an option to NOT show failed logins. This is
not as bad a problem as I make it sound but getting one or two prompts
about a failed login (due to server-side problems over which I have no
control) over a couple days is too much a nuisance for me to keep
closing those bogus prompt windows.
From: Michael Bauer [MVP - Outlook] on


Please see OLKeeper here, which does exactly what you're asking for:
http://www.vboffice.net/product.html?lang=en

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Michael Bauer - MVP Outlook
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Am Thu, 13 May 2010 08:45:33 +1200 schrieb John:

> Is there a way to minimize Outlook 2007 by clicking on the X button?