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From: Dragan Zubac on 6 May 2010 15:45 Hello I need to setup Postfix mail server that will be used only occasionally for sending out newsletters and other automated emails. There are 4 boxes,1. is the box where Postfix is installed,boxes 2.,3. and 4. are boxes that have various scripts that will use SMTP to connect to box 1. in order to send emails. The requirements are as follows: 1. All Postfix mail logs must be able to check via some kind of web interface,where one will be able to see the MessageID,Subject,To, Date,Time and status of sent message,the similar can be seen on the following URL: http://www.kyapanel.com/images/rsgallery/original/kp8.png (although not necessarily using this software) The purpose of this requirement is for somebody to be able to find out if any of the emails sent out was not delivered,and if not, what was the reason. 2. The scripts will send 'important' and 'less important' emails. If script is programmed to send 'important' ones,the copy of email must be sent to a separate account that will archive all sent emails (automatically BCC or something similar). If script will send 'less important' email,there is no need to keep a copy of sent email. The purpose of this request is for somebody to be able to find out the same copy of email if a recipient confirm that he has not received that very same email. 3. Some emails will have kind of 'no-repy(a)domain.com' email address in 'From' field. If recipient of this email by accident or so does send a reply back to 'no-reply(a)domain.com',he should receive an error email ('User does not exist' or similar error) and also certain local user at 'domai.com' should be alerted that an attempt of email delivery to 'no-reply(a)domain.com' has been occurred. Could You please share Your ideas/thoughts how this can be achieved or so ? Sincerely Dragan Zubac
From: John Adams on 6 May 2010 16:08 > 1. All Postfix mail logs must be able to check via some kind of web > interface,where one will be able to see the MessageID,Subject,To, > Date,Time and status of sent message,the similar can be seen on the > following URL: > > http://www.kyapanel.com/images/rsgallery/original/kp8.png (although not > necessarily using this software) > > The purpose of this requirement is for somebody to be able to find out > if any of the emails sent out was not delivered,and if not, > what was the reason. I use syslog-ng to feed logs to a mysql db which can be easily looked at via web interface. > 2. The scripts will send 'important' and 'less important' emails. If > script is programmed to send 'important' ones,the copy of email > must be sent to a separate account that will archive all sent emails > (automatically BCC or something similar). > If script will send 'less important' email,there is no need to keep a > copy of sent email. > The purpose of this request is for somebody to be able to find out the > same copy of email if a recipient confirm that he has not > received that very same email. ? > 3. Some emails will have kind of 'no-repy(a)domain.com' email address in > 'From' field. If recipient of this email by accident or so > does send a reply back to 'no-reply(a)domain.com',he should receive an > error email ('User does not exist' or similar error) and > also certain local user at 'domai.com' should be alerted that an attempt > of email delivery to 'no-reply(a)domain.com' has been > occurred. check_recipient_access main.cf config parameter pointing to a file that contains: no-reply(a)domain.com REJECT no such user
From: "Peter H. Coffin" on 7 May 2010 08:43 On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:08:31PM +0200, John Adams wrote: > >2. The scripts will send 'important' and 'less important' emails. If > >script is programmed to send 'important' ones,the copy of email > >must be sent to a separate account that will archive all sent emails > >(automatically BCC or something similar). > >If script will send 'less important' email,there is no need to keep a > >copy of sent email. > >The purpose of this request is for somebody to be able to find out the > >same copy of email if a recipient confirm that he has not > >received that very same email. > > ? Wants bounce processing. Probably with a back-end database. Outside of the scope of Postfix by a long, long way. (I've written such things, and they're not trivial.) -- Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- HL Mencken
From: Nataraj on 7 May 2010 12:15 Dragan Zubac wrote: > Hello > > I need to setup Postfix mail server that will be used only > occasionally for sending out newsletters and other automated emails. > There are 4 boxes,1. is the box where Postfix is installed,boxes 2.,3. > and 4. are boxes that have various scripts that will use SMTP to > connect to box 1. in order to send emails. > The requirements are as follows: > > 1. All Postfix mail logs must be able to check via some kind of web > interface,where one will be able to see the MessageID,Subject,To, > Date,Time and status of sent message,the similar can be seen on the > following URL: > > http://www.kyapanel.com/images/rsgallery/original/kp8.png > (although not necessarily using this software) > > The purpose of this requirement is for somebody to be able to find > out if any of the emails sent out was not delivered,and if not, > what was the reason. > > 2. The scripts will send 'important' and 'less important' emails. If > script is programmed to send 'important' ones,the copy of email > must be sent to a separate account that will archive all sent > emails (automatically BCC or something similar). > If script will send 'less important' email,there is no need to keep > a copy of sent email. > The purpose of this request is for somebody to be able to find out > the same copy of email if a recipient confirm that he has not > received that very same email. > > 3. Some emails will have kind of 'no-repy(a)domain.com' email address in > 'From' field. If recipient of this email by accident or so > does send a reply back to 'no-reply(a)domain.com',he should receive > an error email ('User does not exist' or similar error) and > also certain local user at 'domai.com' should be alerted that an > attempt of email delivery to 'no-reply(a)domain.com' has been > occurred. > > Could You please share Your ideas/thoughts how this can be achieved or > so ? > > Sincerely > > Dragan Zubac I'm not sure if this is useful or not, but the two most common open source pieces of software for managing mailing lists are mailman and majordomo (the server used for this list). Both can be used with postfix. mailman is written in python and has a web based interface to allow users to subscribe as well as for management purposes. Majordomo is written in perl, and I believe the administration as well as subscription lists is still managed in email. Personally, I like the web interface of mailman as well as the way that it handles headers., though I have not managed a list myself with mailman. I don't know what kind of reporting these packages provide, but everything is in log files and python/perl code can be easily customized, so if your skilled at working with python/perl you could add report pages and features as needed. Both packages have been used quite extensively for large mailing lists. http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html Outside of these options, there are commercial services that are relatively inexpensive that provide mailing list managers with reporting functions that marketing types tend to want to see. I'm not personally a big fan of these things, and many are used for what I consider borderline spamming, but sometimes it's easier to farm things out than implement everything yourself. If it interests you, I can send you the name of one that one of my clients likes, though I have no personal experience. Nataraj
From: Dragan Zubac on 18 May 2010 09:49
Hello Thank You for all informations sent over. Could You please send me specs for that commercial software so I can ask the client if that's what he supposed to have ? You can email me off-list,don't know this list rules by heart. Sincerely Dragan Nataraj wrote: > Dragan Zubac wrote: >> Hello >> >> I need to setup Postfix mail server that will be used only >> occasionally for sending out newsletters and other automated emails. >> There are 4 boxes,1. is the box where Postfix is installed,boxes >> 2.,3. and 4. are boxes that have various scripts that will use SMTP to >> connect to box 1. in order to send emails. >> The requirements are as follows: >> >> 1. All Postfix mail logs must be able to check via some kind of web >> interface,where one will be able to see the MessageID,Subject,To, >> Date,Time and status of sent message,the similar can be seen on >> the following URL: >> >> http://www.kyapanel.com/images/rsgallery/original/kp8.png >> (although not necessarily using this software) >> >> The purpose of this requirement is for somebody to be able to find >> out if any of the emails sent out was not delivered,and if not, >> what was the reason. >> >> 2. The scripts will send 'important' and 'less important' emails. If >> script is programmed to send 'important' ones,the copy of email >> must be sent to a separate account that will archive all sent >> emails (automatically BCC or something similar). >> If script will send 'less important' email,there is no need to >> keep a copy of sent email. >> The purpose of this request is for somebody to be able to find out >> the same copy of email if a recipient confirm that he has not >> received that very same email. >> >> 3. Some emails will have kind of 'no-repy(a)domain.com' email address >> in 'From' field. If recipient of this email by accident or so >> does send a reply back to 'no-reply(a)domain.com',he should receive >> an error email ('User does not exist' or similar error) and >> also certain local user at 'domai.com' should be alerted that an >> attempt of email delivery to 'no-reply(a)domain.com' has been >> occurred. >> >> Could You please share Your ideas/thoughts how this can be achieved >> or so ? >> >> Sincerely >> >> Dragan Zubac > I'm not sure if this is useful or not, but the two most common open > source pieces of software for managing mailing lists are mailman and > majordomo (the server used for this list). Both can be used with > postfix. mailman is written in python and has a web based interface > to allow users to subscribe as well as for management purposes. > Majordomo is written in perl, and I believe the administration as well > as subscription lists is still managed in email. Personally, I like > the web interface of mailman as well as the way that it handles > headers., though I have not managed a list myself with mailman. I > don't know what kind of reporting these packages provide, but > everything is in log files and python/perl code can be easily > customized, so if your skilled at working with python/perl you could > add report pages and features as needed. Both packages have been used > quite extensively for large mailing lists. > > http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ > > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html > > Outside of these options, there are commercial services that are > relatively inexpensive that provide mailing list managers with > reporting functions that marketing types tend to want to see. I'm not > personally a big fan of these things, and many are used for what I > consider borderline spamming, but sometimes it's easier to farm things > out than implement everything yourself. If it interests you, I can > send you the name of one that one of my clients likes, though I have > no personal experience. > > Nataraj > > |