From: dorayme on
In article <andreas-86C624.09130328072010(a)news.individual.de>,
Andreas Rutishauser <andreas(a)macandreas.ch> wrote:

> Salut dorayme
>
> In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right
> > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I
> > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using
> > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same
> > question.
>
> MenuMeters will do the job:
> <http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/>
>
> Cheers
> Andreas

Thanks Andreas.

<slap_forehead>
Have it already in Sys Prefs and have the CPU% up there turned
on. Forgot how I originally did this!
</slap_forehead>

Yes, there is CPU, Disk, Memory and Network. I have just turned
Memory on.

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From: dorayme on
In article <1jmbzfe.2ol4im1lhkv9zN%thewildrover(a)me.com>,
thewildrover(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right
> > > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I
> > > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using
> > > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same
> > > question.
> >
> > iStat Menus, hands down.
>
> Seconded.

Thank you both. If I need better than what I have, I will
consider it. At the moment, I am not sure I have very fine
grained ideas on what I need? I just need, I suppose, to know
when I am actively using most of my RAM (don't laugh, the max
1.5GB on my QS 2002).

(Safari, for example, has been quitting on me sometimes when a
few tabs are open and I don't mind if I have a little more info
in the menu bar.

My theory at the moment is this: Safari thinks it is home sweet
home with me because I use it by default and generally love it.
It therefore thinks it can just quit on me whenever it *feels*
like it. It takes me for granted! But if it sees that I have a
RAM indicator and stuff and will see if it is leaking or up to
tricks it might *feel inhibited* from playing fiddly diddly. I am
watching it.)

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From: dorayme on
In article <4c4fd8c2$0$22176$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right
> > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I
> > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using
> > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same
> > question.
>
> It's hard to define "how much real RAM is being used" in a modern OS.
>
> There's:
> 1) Unused memory with no useful contents
> 2) Only virtually mapped to a file
> 3) Used but not recently accessed memory
> 4) Actively used memory
> 5) Locked memory
>
>
> Case #1 is the classic description of free memory. It could also be
> called wasted memory. It's RAM chips sitting there and contributing no
> useful value. Modern OSes try to minimize this.
>
> Case #2 is unused portions of data files, code libraries, fonts,
> resources, and swap. If a program asked for the data it would appear to
> be there, but the program hasn't asked for it so the OS never loaded it.
>
> Case #3 is everything that is loaded for use but hasn't been accessed
> recently. This memory may be on both disk and RAM simultaneously so
> that the next step, whether it's using the RAM again or repurposing the
> RAM for other uses, is instant.
>
> Case #4 is what's being used right now. It's only in RAM unless a RAM
> shortage pushes it out.
>
> Case #5 is locked or 'wired' in place. This is common for hardware
> device buffers, the kernel, and VM tables; things that can't swap
> themselves in. The RAM is not available for any other use.

Mmm... yes, OK. I knew it was a bit complicated, I better read
what menumeter is indicating then, does it include #2 in its Used
figure? I think I am particularly interested in the total of what
is simply not available, namely the sum of #4 and #5 (but I see
even this has subtleties).

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dorayme
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

dorayme wrote:
> Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right
> along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I
> have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using
> Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same
> question.

MenuMeters is excellent for this kind of work. - It can quite a lot
more, but each 'item' can be disabled, so you for example only have the
RAM uasage - or RAM usage along with CPU consumption if you like to...
It works on anything OS X from 10.4.x and up - and on all types of CPUs
from G3 to Intel.

MenuMeters 1.4b4 (freeware/donateware)
Menu extras: CPU, disk, memory & network monitoring.
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17713

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <vilain-96AC25.15003628072010(a)news.individual.net>,
Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-375C90.01242428072010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right
> > > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I
> > > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using
> > > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same
> > > question.
> >
> > iStat Menus, hands down.
>
> Except it's not as configurable as MenuMeters and cost $10. I ran it
> for about 30 minutes, then tossed it going back to MenuMeters. For
> intensely concentrated information, I use XRG which is also free.
>
> http://www.gauchosoft.com/Software/X%20Resource%20Graph/

It's only the latest version that requires payment. Up until that point
it was donation-ware.

I'm not sure what makes you think iStat menus isn't as configurable as
MenuMeters, but I'd have to see some proof before I believed it. I've
used both, and as far as I can tell, iStat menus offers *more*
configurability than MenuMeters.

XRG is ok but for menu-based information, nothing beats iStat menus,
IMO.

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