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From: dorayme on 28 Jul 2010 04:08 In article <andreas-86C624.09130328072010(a)news.individual.de>, Andreas Rutishauser <andreas(a)macandreas.ch> wrote: > Salut dorayme > > In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right > > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I > > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using > > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same > > question. > > MenuMeters will do the job: > <http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/> > > Cheers > Andreas Thanks Andreas. <slap_forehead> Have it already in Sys Prefs and have the CPU% up there turned on. Forgot how I originally did this! </slap_forehead> Yes, there is CPU, Disk, Memory and Network. I have just turned Memory on. -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 28 Jul 2010 04:22 In article <1jmbzfe.2ol4im1lhkv9zN%thewildrover(a)me.com>, thewildrover(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>, > > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right > > > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I > > > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using > > > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same > > > question. > > > > iStat Menus, hands down. > > Seconded. Thank you both. If I need better than what I have, I will consider it. At the moment, I am not sure I have very fine grained ideas on what I need? I just need, I suppose, to know when I am actively using most of my RAM (don't laugh, the max 1.5GB on my QS 2002). (Safari, for example, has been quitting on me sometimes when a few tabs are open and I don't mind if I have a little more info in the menu bar. My theory at the moment is this: Safari thinks it is home sweet home with me because I use it by default and generally love it. It therefore thinks it can just quit on me whenever it *feels* like it. It takes me for granted! But if it sees that I have a RAM indicator and stuff and will see if it is leaking or up to tricks it might *feel inhibited* from playing fiddly diddly. I am watching it.) -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 28 Jul 2010 04:28 In article <4c4fd8c2$0$22176$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: > In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right > > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I > > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using > > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same > > question. > > It's hard to define "how much real RAM is being used" in a modern OS. > > There's: > 1) Unused memory with no useful contents > 2) Only virtually mapped to a file > 3) Used but not recently accessed memory > 4) Actively used memory > 5) Locked memory > > > Case #1 is the classic description of free memory. It could also be > called wasted memory. It's RAM chips sitting there and contributing no > useful value. Modern OSes try to minimize this. > > Case #2 is unused portions of data files, code libraries, fonts, > resources, and swap. If a program asked for the data it would appear to > be there, but the program hasn't asked for it so the OS never loaded it. > > Case #3 is everything that is loaded for use but hasn't been accessed > recently. This memory may be on both disk and RAM simultaneously so > that the next step, whether it's using the RAM again or repurposing the > RAM for other uses, is instant. > > Case #4 is what's being used right now. It's only in RAM unless a RAM > shortage pushes it out. > > Case #5 is locked or 'wired' in place. This is common for hardware > device buffers, the kernel, and VM tables; things that can't swap > themselves in. The RAM is not available for any other use. Mmm... yes, OK. I knew it was a bit complicated, I better read what menumeter is indicating then, does it include #2 in its Used figure? I think I am particularly interested in the total of what is simply not available, namely the sum of #4 and #5 (but I see even this has subtleties). -- dorayme
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 28 Jul 2010 07:44 dorayme wrote: > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same > question. MenuMeters is excellent for this kind of work. - It can quite a lot more, but each 'item' can be disabled, so you for example only have the RAM uasage - or RAM usage along with CPU consumption if you like to... It works on anything OS X from 10.4.x and up - and on all types of CPUs from G3 to Intel. MenuMeters 1.4b4 (freeware/donateware) Menu extras: CPU, disk, memory & network monitoring. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17713 Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Jolly Roger on 28 Jul 2010 18:50
In article <vilain-96AC25.15003628072010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-375C90.01242428072010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <dorayme-BC5129.13134428072010(a)news.albasani.net>, > > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Recommendations appreciated for a menu item (say on the top right > > > along with date, display, spotlight, CPU% and other things I > > > have) that tells one how much real RAM is being used. I am using > > > Tiger mainly, but also have Snow on a laptop for which same > > > question. > > > > iStat Menus, hands down. > > Except it's not as configurable as MenuMeters and cost $10. I ran it > for about 30 minutes, then tossed it going back to MenuMeters. For > intensely concentrated information, I use XRG which is also free. > > http://www.gauchosoft.com/Software/X%20Resource%20Graph/ It's only the latest version that requires payment. Up until that point it was donation-ware. I'm not sure what makes you think iStat menus isn't as configurable as MenuMeters, but I'd have to see some proof before I believed it. I've used both, and as far as I can tell, iStat menus offers *more* configurability than MenuMeters. XRG is ok but for menu-based information, nothing beats iStat menus, IMO. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |