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From: Franc Zabkar on 4 Jul 2010 03:36
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:35:39 -0400, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Also, there is one other obscure detail. The ATA/ATAPI standard has
>many UDMA and PIO operating modes. There are a few of the very slowest
>modes, which are no longer properly supported on modern motherboards.

AIUI, the BIOS issues an ATA Identify Device command to the drive
during the POST. This command is executed in PIO mode. After the BIOS
determines the drive's capabilites, it then selects an appropriate
UDMA mode.

Since the OP has stated that the drive is not detected by BIOS, I
would think that DMA modes are probably not the reason. (?)

- Franc Zabkar
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From: Alessandro on 4 Jul 2010 03:49

>
> Do you have the hard drive connected to the end connector of the cable ?
> For a single drive, it should be connected to the end connector, not
> the middle one.

Yes, connected to the end connector ... I've a mb with just one EIDE port,
the rest is SATA

>
> Do you have the jumper on DS, but none on the other positions ?
>

Only DS jumper

> And, is the drive identified in the BIOS ? The BIOS should be
> able to read the drive identity information (Like Sirocco or whatever),
> by means of probing the drive at power up.

BIOS can't see it ... it's powered because I can see the green led on it
In BIOS I can define for each drive Auto or Manual, setting manual there are
threee options: CHS, Large and LBA.
I've tried CHS setting cylinders, heads and sectors reading from the
specification label but no way ... the same trying just Label and not
setting anything.




From: fwibbler on 4 Jul 2010 03:55
"Alessandro" <nemo(a)nobody.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I guess it's impossible, but I have an old IDE hd (Quantum Sirocco),
without
> jumpers - so set as Slave - I'd like to read on a motherboard without any
> other Master IDE device.
>
> Unofrtunately I can't set it as Master, I don't have a suitable jumper
> because it has an odd configuration, not the classical one with the row of
4
> couples of pins (in this case I'd have the jumper), but a "strange" row
with
> 3 single pins (???).
>
> Any suggestions ? Apart of course looking for a IDE device to be set as
> Master ...
>
> Thanks all
> Ale
>
Having read the other posts, are you using an 80 line cable (UDMA66 and
above)?
If so, try using an older 40 line (UDMA33 and below) cable.
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From: phazr beam on 4 Jul 2010 12:44
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:49:07 +0200, Alessandro came out of hiding to
write:


>> Do you have the hard drive connected to the end connector of the cable
>> ? For a single drive, it should be connected to the end connector, not
>> the middle one.
>
> Yes, connected to the end connector ... I've a mb with just one EIDE
> port, the rest is SATA
>
>
>> Do you have the jumper on DS, but none on the other positions ?
>>
>>
> Only DS jumper
>
>> And, is the drive identified in the BIOS ? The BIOS should be able to
>> read the drive identity information (Like Sirocco or whatever), by
>> means of probing the drive at power up.
>
> BIOS can't see it ... it's powered because I can see the green led on it
> In BIOS I can define for each drive Auto or Manual, setting manual there
> are threee options: CHS, Large and LBA.
> I've tried CHS setting cylinders, heads and sectors reading from the
> specification label but no way ... the same trying just Label and not
> setting anything.

I hate to ask but are you sure the power cable is connected to the
drive? I've spent a few hrs making sure the data cable was correct only
to finally notice I hadn't connected the power cable.

Of course, check all cable connections.

BTW, I chose CS for my drives these days then I don't need to worry if
its MS or SL, just connecting the drive to the right connectors.

BIOS should be set to Auto. Manual is for compatibility with ancient,
dawn of time HDs when you had to specify the number of cyls, track,
sectors, etc. Ancient is when a 10-20Mb HD cost $100, yeah Megabyte.





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