From: Karl E. Peterson on
Bob Butler wrote:
> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eM59gAS$KHA.5392(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Not so weird. They are embarrassed by how they've treated us.
>
> While they should be, I seriously doubt that they are. I think they are
> totally clueless why anybody would not be willing to follow them wherever
> they try to lead.

True, that!

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From: Henning on
"Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet
news:uyCcRBS$KHA.3176(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Henning wrote:
>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:ezSIrKR$KHA.4316(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> nntp(a)microsoft.com wrote:
>>>> What is Happening?
>>>> This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin
>>>> discontinuing
>>>> newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
>>>
>>> Can anyone find the beginning of this thread in Google Groups?
>>>
>>> Or did the b*stards completely hide their crime from the history books?
>>>
>>> -- .NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
>>> Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT
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>>> Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hmmmm, am only I getting this from the msg src?
>>
>> Subject:
>> =?UTF-8?B?UmVtaW5kZXIgLSBNaWNyb3NvZnQgUmVzcG9uZHMgdG8gdGhlIEV2b2x1dGlvbiBvZiBDb21tdW5pdHk=?=
>
> Saw that too, yeah. No posts by nntp(a)microsoft.com show up in Google
> Groups for this group, as best I can tell. They've done something screwy,
> which I'd like to give them credit for. But ineptitude always seems to be
> the underlying cause, in the end, doesn't it?
>
> --
> .NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
> Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT
> ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
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>
>

Isn't it just as easy to copy the original post and refer to it in
googlegrps?

Something like "This is what it is all about".

I'll see if I can do it.

/Henning


From: Henning on
On 27 Maj, 00:10, Karl E. Peterson <k...(a)exmvps.org> wrote:
> Henning wrote:
> > "Karl E. Peterson" <k...(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet
> >news:ezSIrKR$KHA.4316(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> n...(a)microsoft.com wrote:
> >>> What is Happening?
> >>> This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
> >>> newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
>
> >> Can anyone find the beginning of this thread in Google Groups?
>
> >> Or did the b*stards completely hide their crime from the history books?
>
> >> -- .NET: It's About Trust!  http://vfred.mvps.org
> >> Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT
> >> ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
> >> Free usenet access athttp://www.eternal-september.org
>
> > Hmmmm, am only I getting this from the msg src?
>
> > Subject:
> > =?UTF-8?B?UmVtaW5kZXIgLSBNaWNyb3NvZnQgUmVzcG9uZHMgdG8gdGhlIEV2b2x1dGlvbiBvZiBDb21tdW5pdHk=?=
>
> Saw that too, yeah.  No posts by n...(a)microsoft.com show up in Google
> Groups for this group, as best I can tell.  They've done something
> screwy, which I'd like to give them credit for.  But ineptitude always
> seems to be the underlying cause, in the end, doesn't it?
>
> --
> .NET: It's About Trust!  http://vfred.mvps.org
> Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT
> ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
> Free usenet access athttp://www.eternal-september.org

This is what it is all about:


What is Happening?
This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin
discontinuing
newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.

Why?
As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however,
the
traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for
the
past several years while customers and participants are increasingly
finding
solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party
sites. This
move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it
easier
for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate
redundancies and
make the content easier to find by customers and search engines
through
improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by
encouraging a
healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft
will
begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums
technology
and discontinue support for newsgroups.

In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for
those
users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in
the
newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP
Bridge
which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to
the
forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP
reader
functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set
up the
NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/

Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010
and
October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased
approach,
starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to
more
active ones throughout the course of the next six months.


Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to
invite you to participate at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/threads
forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are
finalized.

Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx

Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
NNTP(a)microsoft.com

/Henning
From: Karl E. Peterson on
nntp(a)microsoft.com wrote:
> What is Happening?
> This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
> newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
>
> Why?
> As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
> traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
> past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding
> solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This
> move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier
> for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and
> make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
> improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
> management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a
> healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will
> begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
> and discontinue support for newsgroups.
>
> In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
> users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
> newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
> which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
> forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader
> functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the
> NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/
>
> Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
> All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
> October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach,
> starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
> active ones throughout the course of the next six months.
>
>
> Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
> In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is
> scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite you
> to participate at
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/threads forum(s). An
> exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.
>
> Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
>
> Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
> Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
> NNTP(a)microsoft.com

Quoting the full message, uneditted, for Google Groups.

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From: Karl E. Peterson on
Henning wrote:
> Isn't it just as easy to copy the original post and refer to it in
> googlegrps?
>
> Something like "This is what it is all about".
>
> I'll see if I can do it.

Heh, I just had the very same idea!

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