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From: ANONYMOUS on 11 Dec 2009 16:38


Helpful person wrote:

> Does it make sense to worry about standards compliance in a Frontpage
>
>forum?
>
>
>
>
Sure. standards are very important in web design technology because
there are many browsers out there and without standards, we would not be
able to service our customers because they may not be using the browser
for which the web was intended for.

Up to now Mcrosoft only cared about its own standards but it seems the
competition is catching up with them. It can no longer take for granted
that everybody is or should be using IE!.

hth
From: ANONYMOUS on 12 Dec 2009 18:29
Replicated in Mozilla and the CSS code is here:

-moz-border-radius-topleft: 100px;
-webkit-border-top-left-radius: 100px;
-moz-border-radius-topright: 66.66px;
-webkit-border-top-right-radius: 66.66px;
-moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 50px;
-webkit-border-bottom-left-radius: 50px;
-moz-border-radius-bottomright: 200px;
-webkit-border-bottom-right-radius: 200px;
border-left: 5px orange double;
border-right: 5px orange double;
border-top: 5px orange double;
border-bottom: 5px orange double;
padding-bottom: 24px;
padding-left: 24px;
padding-right: 24px;
padding-top: 24px;
background-color: #ccc;
width: 780px;


KathyW wrote:

>It will be as standard as it can be, considering CSS3 is still in draft.
>Firefox and others added this feature earlier, but they did it in different
>ways and in a way that does not comply with the current CSS3 draft
>("-moz-border-radius", "-webkit-border-radius",
>"-moz-border-radius-topright", etc.). The markup shown in that IE9 blog is
>consistent with CSS3 draft as of Oct 2009,
>(http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-border-radius ). This is one case
>where you blame the other browsers, not IE.
>
>"Gregory A. Beamer" wrote:
>
>
>
>>ANONYMOUS <ANONYMOUS(a)EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in news:#th#V6sdKHA.3792
>>@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>
>>
>>
>>>IE9 will support rounded corners! Now this must be progress by M$
>>>programmers:
>>>
>>>
>>No more using images. Great. But it will be proprietary, which means your
>>rounded corners will not work in all browsers.
>>
>>Peace and Grace,
>>
>>--
>>Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)
>>
>>Twitter: @gbworld
>>Blog: http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com
>>
>>*******************************************
>>| Think outside the box! |
>>*******************************************
>>.
>>
>>
>>
From: KathyW on 12 Dec 2009 19:36
We know Mozilla does that. IE9 will be doing it per the CSS3 spec, not by a
proprietary method (such as Mozilla's). That's the only point I was making.

"ANONYMOUS" wrote:

> Replicated in Mozilla and the CSS code is here:
>
> -moz-border-radius-topleft: 100px;
> -webkit-border-top-left-radius: 100px;
> -moz-border-radius-topright: 66.66px;
> -webkit-border-top-right-radius: 66.66px;
> -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 50px;
> -webkit-border-bottom-left-radius: 50px;
> -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 200px;
> -webkit-border-bottom-right-radius: 200px;
> border-left: 5px orange double;
> border-right: 5px orange double;
> border-top: 5px orange double;
> border-bottom: 5px orange double;
> padding-bottom: 24px;
> padding-left: 24px;
> padding-right: 24px;
> padding-top: 24px;
> background-color: #ccc;
> width: 780px;
>
>
> KathyW wrote:
>
> >It will be as standard as it can be, considering CSS3 is still in draft.
> >Firefox and others added this feature earlier, but they did it in different
> >ways and in a way that does not comply with the current CSS3 draft
> >("-moz-border-radius", "-webkit-border-radius",
> >"-moz-border-radius-topright", etc.). The markup shown in that IE9 blog is
> >consistent with CSS3 draft as of Oct 2009,
> >(http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-border-radius ). This is one case
> >where you blame the other browsers, not IE.
> >
> >"Gregory A. Beamer" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>ANONYMOUS <ANONYMOUS(a)EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in news:#th#V6sdKHA.3792
> >>@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>IE9 will support rounded corners! Now this must be progress by M$
> >>>programmers:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>No more using images. Great. But it will be proprietary, which means your
> >>rounded corners will not work in all browsers.
> >>
> >>Peace and Grace,
> >>
> >>--
> >>Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)
> >>
> >>Twitter: @gbworld
> >>Blog: http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com
> >>
> >>*******************************************
> >>| Think outside the box! |
> >>*******************************************
> >>.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> .
>
From: Gregory A. Beamer on 14 Dec 2009 10:23
Helpful person <rrllff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:a627fb64-7673-4475-a8b6-
e9db0b14f78d(a)m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> Does it make sense to worry about standards compliance in a Frontpage
> forum?

Only if you think web designers should worry about compliance.

Peace and Grace,

--
Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)

Twitter: @gbworld
Blog: http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com

*******************************************
| Think outside the box! |
*******************************************
From: Phil Brighton- UKWDA Accredited on 16 Dec 2009 11:35
A good javascript solution is at
http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html this does rely on JS turned
on.
--
Web Designer Magazine (EW) Writer and Forum Moderator EW
http://webdesignermag.co.uk/forum/


"ANONYMOUS" wrote:

> IE9 will support rounded corners! Now this must be progress by M$
> programmers:
>
> "As we improve support in IE for technologies that site developers use,
> the score will continue to go up. A more meaningful (from the point of
> view of web developers) example of standards support involves rounded
> corners. Here's IE9 drawing rounded corners, along with the underlying
> mark-up:"
>
> <http://ieblog.members.winisp.net/images/Dean_PDC_4.png>
>
> The full article is here:
>
> <http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/11/18/an-early-look-at-ie9-for-developers.aspx>
>
> .
>
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