From: Ryan Suarez on
Nick Couchman wrote:
>>>> On 2010/05/20 at 13:43, Damien J Dye <damien.j.dye(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>> Why are you not using the cups printer drivers in the cups enviroment there
>> are both x64 and i386 versions and gets round the issues with broken drivers
>> and allows cups features to be passed to windows.
>>
>
> There are several "special" function of my printers (networked copiers, actually) that need to be supported, and I don't believe the CUPS driver contains this support. Things like sending the printout to a storage box on the copier that waits for someone to walk up and print it (Mailbox/Document Server), duplexing, hole punching, stapling, N-up, etc. I have not tried the CUPS printer drivers, yet, so perhaps these features get passed through, but some of those features aren't even present in the PPD file that I use for CUPS.

+1, generic cups drivers may not support all the features available for
a given printer.
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From: Nick Couchman on
> Which driver are you referring to? Does the driver not have options to
> disable printer communication?

It's a driver for a Ricoh Aficio MP C6501SP. No, there is no option to disable bi-directional printer communication. My Canon imageRunner drivers do have this option, and even let you specify the hostname/IP address that they can talk to for the bi-di support, but the Ricoh drivers seem to rely on the ability to communicate directly with the printer, and they seem to rely on Windows to deliver the correct port information to attempt that communication.

-Nick



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From: Nick Couchman on
> Ricoh-Aficio_MP_C4500 supports postscript and has a manufacture ppd so there
> are no issues like that here
>
> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Ricoh/Ricoh-Aficio_MP_C4500
>

Yes, and I actually have the PPD installed for the MP C6501SP that I'm using. However, the PPD doesn't seem to include all of the options - like the Document Server/Mailbox printer - that I need. I don't really need these functions on non-Windows platforms, but I definitely need them for some of my Windows-based users. If the PPD doesn't contain the options, then the functionality obviously won't be passed through.

> the Canon imageRunner also has supported drivers.

Yes, Canon stuff works fine for me - no issues there.

>
> the whole point of using CUPS is to get rid of the broken drivers in the
> first place
>
> all PPD options are passed though to the windows client
> http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/x64/
> http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/i386/
>

Okay - I'll definitely try it out.

>
> Scanning to email ( configure the printer to read from LDAP) and network
> scanning use SANE
>
> windows print drivers can do either because there not related to printing.

Right.

>
> try it and see how you go it can't do any harm.
>

Will do.

Thanks!
-Nick




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From: Damien J Dye on
Ricoh-Aficio_MP_C4500 supports postscript and has a manufacture ppd so there
are no issues like that here

http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Ricoh/Ricoh-Aficio_MP_C4500

the Canon imageRunner also has supported drivers.

the whole point of using CUPS is to get rid of the broken drivers in the
first place

all PPD options are passed though to the windows client
http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/x64/
http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/i386/


Scanning to email ( configure the printer to read from LDAP) and network
scanning use SANE

windows print drivers can do either because there not related to printing.

try it and see how you go it can't do any harm.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Suarez [mailto:ryan.suarez(a)sheridanc.on.ca]
Sent: 21 May 2010 16:10
To: Damien J Dye
Cc: Nick Couchman; samba(a)lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba + CUPS

Nick Couchman wrote:
>>>> On 2010/05/20 at 13:43, Damien J Dye <damien.j.dye(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>> Why are you not using the cups printer drivers in the cups enviroment
there
>> are both x64 and i386 versions and gets round the issues with broken
drivers
>> and allows cups features to be passed to windows.
>>
>
> There are several "special" function of my printers (networked copiers,
actually) that need to be supported, and I don't believe the CUPS driver
contains this support. Things like sending the printout to a storage box on
the copier that waits for someone to walk up and print it (Mailbox/Document
Server), duplexing, hole punching, stapling, N-up, etc. I have not tried
the CUPS printer drivers, yet, so perhaps these features get passed through,
but some of those features aren't even present in the PPD file that I use
for CUPS.

+1, generic cups drivers may not support all the features available for
a given printer.

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From: Nick Couchman on
>
>>
>> the whole point of using CUPS is to get rid of the broken drivers in the
>> first place
>>
>> all PPD options are passed though to the windows client
>> http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/x64/
>> http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/i386/
>>
>

This may just work, except that the PPD file provided by Ricoh does not contain the option for the Document Server functionality on the copier, so I can't send jobs to the "Hold Queue" or document "mailboxes" on the copier. I'm going to hit Ricoh up about that one - seems like something that should be in the PPD file.

-Nick



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