From: Damien J Dye on


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From: Nick Couchman [mailto:Nick.Couchman(a)seakr.com]
Sent: 24 May 2010 22:58
To: Damien J Dye; 'Ryan Suarez'
Cc: samba(a)lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: [Samba] Samba + CUPS

>
>>
>> the whole point of using CUPS is to get rid of the broken drivers in the
>> first place
>>
>> all PPD options are passed though to the windows client
>> http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/x64/
>> http://svn.easysw.com/public/windows/trunk/i386/
>>
>

This may just work, except that the PPD file provided by Ricoh does not
contain the option for the Document Server functionality on the copier, so I
can't send jobs to the "Hold Queue" or document "mailboxes" on the copier.
I'm going to hit Ricoh up about that one - seems like something that should
be in the PPD file.

-Nick


Nick

for printer queue holding managed by cups so can be deployed on any printer.

have a look at the following cups options

Holding Jobs for Later Printing

The -o job-hold-until=when option tells CUPS to delay printing until the
"when" time, which can be one of the following:

* -o job-hold-until=indefinite; print only after released by the user or
an administrator
* -o job-hold-until=day-time; print from 6am to 6pm local time
* -o job-hold-until=night; print from 6pm to 6am local time
* -o job-hold-until=second-shift; print from 4pm to 12am local time
* -o job-hold-until=third-shift; print from 12am to 8am local time
* -o job-hold-until=weekend; print on Saturday or Sunday
* -o job-hold-until=HH:MM; print at the specified UTC time

more options
http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/options.html

users can then login to cups and release their jobs from a web interface.

unfortunately am not aware of the document "mailboxes" concept so I am not
able to advise on that one.

Regards

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From: Nick Couchman on
> for printer queue holding managed by cups so can be deployed on any printer.

> have a look at the following cups options

> Holding Jobs for Later Printing

> The -o job-hold-until=when option tells CUPS to delay printing until the
> "when" time, which can be one of the following:

> * -o job-hold-until=indefinite; print only after released by the user or
> an administrator
> * -o job-hold-until=day-time; print from 6am to 6pm local time
> * -o job-hold-until=night; print from 6pm to 6am local time
> * -o job-hold-until=second-shift; print from 4pm to 12am local time
> * -o job-hold-until=third-shift; print from 12am to 8am local time
> * -o job-hold-until=weekend; print on Saturday or Sunday
> * -o job-hold-until=HH:MM; print at the specified UTC time

Okay - I'm definitely open to this possibility. Do the CUPS Windows drivers support the use of these options? The main place where I need the job hold support is for Windows-based clients, so I need to make sure it works okay there.

Thanks!
-Nick



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> The -o job-hold-until=when option tells CUPS to delay printing until the
> "when" time, which can be one of the following:

Well, I found the option in the Printing Preferences under the Windows driver, but setting it has no effect - the job prints immediately. Something else I need to do?



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From: Damien Dye on
Nick

if it going on for all printers add to smb.conf

cups options = "job-hold-until=indefinite"



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On 25 May 2010 00:47, Nick Couchman <Nick.Couchman(a)seakr.com> wrote:
>> The -o job-hold-until=when option tells CUPS to delay printing until the
>> "when" time, which can be one of the following:
>
>    Well, I found the option in the Printing Preferences under the Windows driver, but setting it has no effect - the job prints immediately.  Something else I need to do?
>
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From: Nick Couchman on
> if it going on for all printers add to smb.conf

> cups options = "job-hold-until=indefinite"

I don't mean to be difficult, but, if I read the smb.conf man page correctly, this means that all jobs printed through Samba to CUPS will be held indefinitely. This is not the behavior I'm looking for - I need users to be able to choose for jobs to be held, otherwise they need to be printed immediately. If I indicated elsewhere that I was looking for this all of the time, I apologize for the confusion. Right now, we use the "hold" feature of our Canon-based copiers for folks who need to print out sensitive documents - e.g. personnel reviews - so that they have a place to print it to that is password protected and so that it's not sitting on the printer. Most of the printing we do does not fall under that heading, so having it print immediately is desirable.

-Nick





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