From: Twayne on
In news:uRKjel4%23KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Tim Meddick <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> typed:
> Just a seconds thought....
>
> I have used IE7 & 8 on many other PCs but still think,
> despite everything, that IE6 is allot better!
>
> For one thing - I absolutely HATE all that *rap at the top
> - endless toolbars on top of more toolbars that I just
> don't want or need.

Don't know what you did to it, but the top bar/s are slim in IE8 and take
little space. In fact, less than IE6 did, for both 7 and 8.

>
> With IE6 I can get the actual viewing space to a maximum by
> reducing the toolbar, file menu & address bar to be all on
> just one bar at the top.

You can control those in 8 also. Just turn off the ones you don't want. And
get rid of the search bars.
>
> I know you can always view in "full-screen mode" but who
> wants to do that?

I do, when I feel it reads better that way.

>
> And I know that You-Tube has made it hard for users of IE6
> but I got around that - by installing (but never having to
> actually use) Google Chrome, I can continue to access
> You-Tube with IE6.

If it's that important to you ...
>
> So, to date at least, I have not yet come across a good
> enough reason to upgrade to (IMHO) a less than streamlined
> and more needlessly complicated-to-use browser.

There's always FireFox and a host of other browsers out there if you don't
like IE; but it sounds like you haven't even bothered to look at them. IE6
is full of holes and you're actually penalizing yourself in several ways by
refusing to try something new and better. IE8's feature set is great IMO
and I see nothing complex about it at all. Thanks mostly to Mozilla, it's
now what it should have been long ago.

>
> Plus - once you upgrade there's no way back!!

I don't know where you got that idea unless you screwed it yourself by not
bothering to read any of the easy to find articles on the subject for those
who might have problems. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it many times,
especially the slow junkers that they sent out with windows updates. And
that was before they'd prepared the how-to's for those that needed them.

Really, if you don't like it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to. IE9
will be around reasonably shortly and you'll be left in even more dust. Do
yourself a favor and instead of bitching like a child, do your research and
either learn to use it or go for something to replace it. Change is
inevitable in any facet of life.

HTH,

Twayne`

> ==
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>
>
>
>
> "Russell Ashenberg" <neshoma(a)bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> news:eYKfX%230%23KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks to all the responses to my question on upgrade to
>> IE7 or IE8. I am going to go to IE8 since it has more
>> enhancements and better fixed that IE7.
>>
>> Thanks to all the help and guidance.
>>
>> Russell A



From: Tim Meddick on
I feel sure you can go back to using IE7 from IE8 but categorically deny
that it's possible to "uninstall" IE7 / 8 and go back to IE6!!

Why don't YOU try it for yourself before telling me that I "screw" things
up...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:%238uqj85%23KHA.5292(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> In news:uRKjel4%23KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> Tim Meddick <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> typed:
>> Just a seconds thought....
>>
>> I have used IE7 & 8 on many other PCs but still think,
>> despite everything, that IE6 is allot better!
>>
>> For one thing - I absolutely HATE all that *rap at the top
>> - endless toolbars on top of more toolbars that I just
>> don't want or need.
>
> Don't know what you did to it, but the top bar/s are slim in IE8 and take
> little space. In fact, less than IE6 did, for both 7 and 8.
>
>>
>> With IE6 I can get the actual viewing space to a maximum by
>> reducing the toolbar, file menu & address bar to be all on
>> just one bar at the top.
>
> You can control those in 8 also. Just turn off the ones you don't want.
> And get rid of the search bars.
>>
>> I know you can always view in "full-screen mode" but who
>> wants to do that?
>
> I do, when I feel it reads better that way.
>
>>
>> And I know that You-Tube has made it hard for users of IE6
>> but I got around that - by installing (but never having to
>> actually use) Google Chrome, I can continue to access
>> You-Tube with IE6.
>
> If it's that important to you ...
>>
>> So, to date at least, I have not yet come across a good
>> enough reason to upgrade to (IMHO) a less than streamlined
>> and more needlessly complicated-to-use browser.
>
> There's always FireFox and a host of other browsers out there if you
> don't like IE; but it sounds like you haven't even bothered to look at
> them. IE6 is full of holes and you're actually penalizing yourself in
> several ways by refusing to try something new and better. IE8's feature
> set is great IMO and I see nothing complex about it at all. Thanks
> mostly to Mozilla, it's now what it should have been long ago.
>
>>
>> Plus - once you upgrade there's no way back!!
>
> I don't know where you got that idea unless you screwed it yourself by
> not bothering to read any of the easy to find articles on the subject for
> those who might have problems. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it
> many times, especially the slow junkers that they sent out with windows
> updates. And that was before they'd prepared the how-to's for those that
> needed them.
>
> Really, if you don't like it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to. IE9
> will be around reasonably shortly and you'll be left in even more dust.
> Do yourself a favor and instead of bitching like a child, do your
> research and either learn to use it or go for something to replace it.
> Change is inevitable in any facet of life.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>> ==
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Russell Ashenberg" <neshoma(a)bezeqint.net> wrote in message
>> news:eYKfX%230%23KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks to all the responses to my question on upgrade to
>>> IE7 or IE8. I am going to go to IE8 since it has more
>>> enhancements and better fixed that IE7.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all the help and guidance.
>>>
>>> Russell A
>
>
>

From: Tim Meddick on
I feel sure you can go back to using IE7 from IE8 but categorically deny that it's possible to "uninstall" IE7 / 8 and go back to IE6!!

Why don't YOU try it for yourself before telling me that I "screw" things up...


For those who *can* view HTML posts : here's a screenshot of my IE6

I Defy you to produce a similar image with IE7 / 8 toolbars anywhere near as compact....



==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message news:%238uqj85%23KHA.5292(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> In news:uRKjel4%23KHA.348(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> Tim Meddick <timmeddick(a)o2.co.uk> typed:
>> Just a seconds thought....
>>
>> I have used IE7 & 8 on many other PCs but still think,
>> despite everything, that IE6 is allot better!
>>
>> For one thing - I absolutely HATE all that *rap at the top
>> - endless toolbars on top of more toolbars that I just
>> don't want or need.
>
> Don't know what you did to it, but the top bar/s are slim in IE8 and take
> little space. In fact, less than IE6 did, for both 7 and 8.
>
>>
>> With IE6 I can get the actual viewing space to a maximum by
>> reducing the toolbar, file menu & address bar to be all on
>> just one bar at the top.
>
> You can control those in 8 also. Just turn off the ones you don't want. And
> get rid of the search bars.
>>
>> I know you can always view in "full-screen mode" but who
>> wants to do that?
>
> I do, when I feel it reads better that way.
>
>>
>> And I know that You-Tube has made it hard for users of IE6
>> but I got around that - by installing (but never having to
>> actually use) Google Chrome, I can continue to access
>> You-Tube with IE6.
>
> If it's that important to you ...
>>
>> So, to date at least, I have not yet come across a good
>> enough reason to upgrade to (IMHO) a less than streamlined
>> and more needlessly complicated-to-use browser.
>
> There's always FireFox and a host of other browsers out there if you don't
> like IE; but it sounds like you haven't even bothered to look at them. IE6
> is full of holes and you're actually penalizing yourself in several ways by
> refusing to try something new and better. IE8's feature set is great IMO
> and I see nothing complex about it at all. Thanks mostly to Mozilla, it's
> now what it should have been long ago.
>
>>
>> Plus - once you upgrade there's no way back!!
>
> I don't know where you got that idea unless you screwed it yourself by not
> bothering to read any of the easy to find articles on the subject for those
> who might have problems. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it many times,
> especially the slow junkers that they sent out with windows updates. And
> that was before they'd prepared the how-to's for those that needed them.
>
> Really, if you don't like it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to. IE9
> will be around reasonably shortly and you'll be left in even more dust. Do
> yourself a favor and instead of bitching like a child, do your research and
> either learn to use it or go for something to replace it. Change is
> inevitable in any facet of life.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>> ==
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Russell Ashenberg" <neshoma(a)bezeqint.net> wrote in message
>> news:eYKfX%230%23KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks to all the responses to my question on upgrade to
>>> IE7 or IE8. I am going to go to IE8 since it has more
>>> enhancements and better fixed that IE7.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all the help and guidance.
>>>
>>> Russell A
>
>
>