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From: John Bowling on 5 May 2010 18:29 Since the update from a few days ago. The Leave icon pulls up a descriptive prompt part of the time when clicked on. Occationally, you get the list of options to click (restart, shutdown, etc) but clicking them does absolutly nothing. I have to go to a konsole, su and then shutdown. So kde4 is now back to the major reason I got rid of Xfce. Is there ANY window manager that does shutdown? From other questions here, the problem has existed for more than a few months.
From: Paul J Gans on 5 May 2010 20:51 John Bowling <johnlb2002(a)cox.net> wrote: >Since the update from a few days ago. The Leave icon pulls up a descriptive >prompt part of the time when clicked on. Occationally, you get the list of >options to click (restart, shutdown, etc) but clicking them does absolutly >nothing. >I have to go to a konsole, su and then shutdown. >So kde4 is now back to the major reason I got rid of Xfce. >Is there ANY window manager that does shutdown? From other questions here, >the problem has existed for more than a few months. KDE 3.5 does it quite reliably. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: taco on 6 May 2010 10:17 DenverD wrote: > Paul J Gans wrote: >> John Bowling <johnlb2002(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> Since the update from a few days ago. The Leave icon pulls up a >>> descriptive prompt part of the time when clicked on. Occationally, you >>> get the list of options to click (restart, shutdown, etc) but clicking >>> them does absolutly nothing. >> >>> I have to go to a konsole, su and then shutdown. >> >>> So kde4 is now back to the major reason I got rid of Xfce. >> >>> Is there ANY window manager that does shutdown? From other questions >>> here, the problem has existed for more than a few months. >> >> KDE 3.5 does it quite reliably. > > every time, with almost boring predictability.. Yeah! > I normally wait for a while before installing a new version but last weekend I installed 11.2 on a new PC at home. After some hesitation kde4 and as second option gnome. Kde4 crashed the system when enabling desktop effects (it's an ati card, but shouldn't result in a crash!). Gnome was very reliable with the effects by the way and I liked the graphics also much more (in a way sharper), so I recommend gnome to give a try. the shutdown problems are also familiar with this 11.2 and kde4. I saw it too (yes, just after a fresh installation, the third reboot was only possible by pressing the reset button!). Until now it works without problems, but it doesn't give me a good feeling. 11.2 has been released too early clearly and it's not like the move from 10.1 to 10.2 and 8 and 9 series where the .2 version was always very stable. taco
From: Vlad_Inhaler on 6 May 2010 14:41 On May 6, 12:29 am, John Bowling <johnlb2...(a)cox.net> wrote: > Since the update from a few days ago. The Leave icon pulls up a descriptive > prompt part of the time when clicked on. Occationally, you get the list of > options to click (restart, shutdown, etc) but clicking them does absolutly > nothing. > > I have to go to a konsole, su and then shutdown. > > So kde4 is now back to the major reason I got rid of Xfce. > > Is there ANY window manager that does shutdown? From other questions here, > the problem has existed for more than a few months. This machine is a fresh 11.2 install as of a few weeks ago - new hardware, not re-initialising after problems. I set it up as a 32-bit system with kde4. I have had nothing like you are seeing at all, it simply works. I also have a couple of machines I use sporadically, both with 11.2 x64, both with kde4. Again, no problems with shutdown. Finally, my old Via C7 which now runs as a server under 11.2. Problems with the sound card but the rest works. Occasionally one of the last 3 machines mentioned stops handling updates properly and I have to do a Yast Online Update. The Via C7 craps out if I use NVidia's own drivers but the open source ones are fine. One thing, apart from the Via C7 server, I have the desktop kernel up everywhere.
From: John Bowling on 6 May 2010 15:54
houghi wrote: > taco wrote: >> I normally wait for a while before installing a new version but last >> weekend I installed 11.2 on a new PC at home. After some hesitation kde4 >> and as second option gnome. Kde4 crashed the system when enabling desktop >> effects (it's an ati card, but shouldn't result in a crash!). Gnome was >> very reliable with the effects by the way and I liked the graphics also >> much more (in a way sharper), so I recommend gnome to give a try. > > As long as you are trying, don't stop with KDE and GNOME. XFCE is just > one click more. > > houghi This system has had full installs 11.2 with kde4 only, then Xfce, only and now kde4 again. All with / getting formatted and a new empty /home/john directory each time, to eliminate any residual interference from the other. After it worked, I then copied over needed stuff from my saved /home/oldjohn directory. And for a week or two they all did shutdown properly, but after that it stops working - on all of them. And with kde4 I have had the dashboard go way when I was setting things, and there is nothing that brings it back. I have not used the desktop kernel on any of them. |