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From: Eiyore on 27 Apr 2010 13:48
I have been using a simple IF formula w/o any problem for several weeks until
now. The IF statement just calculates the amount of product from a meter
every week. This simple formula compares the 1st of the week vs the last of
the week readings and even if this meter rolls over this IF statement
calculates out the correct amount of product.

IF(Z15<Y15,100000000-Y15+Z15,Z15-Y15) Y=1st of week reading & Z=Last of week
reading.

The meter goes up to 99,999,999 units. Problem developed that caused the IF
product results to be backwards. After noticing this I flipped the < to >
and it worked correctly to my surprise - but how? After trying Cell Format
options w/o any luck I tried placing a zero in front of the "Y" number when
typing it in with Cell Format set on Numbers w/o decimals (sometimes the
meter has just rolled over and the number is small w/one or more zeros in the
ten million place and downward in value). I now keep the cell in Text format
and place the zeros in (ie: 00012345) and this works fine as well but why
has this issue just begun presenting itself? There has been many same type
scenarios in the past w/o any issue. Also the file is always renewed every
week using the "Save as" option and just renamed.
From: Luke M on 27 Apr 2010 14:24
Several things going on here.
First, to address your main question, significan digits is not the problem.
XL can handle 15 sig digits, and your meter only goes up to 8. Second, by
changing the cell format to Text, the logic check of:
Z15>Y15
where Z is text and Y is a number, will ALWAYS result in true. While this
may give you the correct result, because XL is nice enough to convert the
text "00050" into the number 50 and then subtract, its not really a good
logic check.

Unfortunately, the real problem here is undefined, since you only wrote
"Problem developed that caused the IF product results to be backwards."
While this may be true, w/o examples of your data, its harder to diagnose
what went wrong. If Y & Z are formatted as numbers, and data is input as
numbers, your formula could be:
=Z15-IF(Z15<Y15,Y15-100000000,Y15)

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Best Regards,

Luke M
"Eiyore" <Eiyore(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have been using a simple IF formula w/o any problem for several weeks
>until
> now. The IF statement just calculates the amount of product from a
> meter
> every week. This simple formula compares the 1st of the week vs the last
> of
> the week readings and even if this meter rolls over this IF statement
> calculates out the correct amount of product.
>
> IF(Z15<Y15,100000000-Y15+Z15,Z15-Y15) Y=1st of week reading & Z=Last of
> week
> reading.
>
> The meter goes up to 99,999,999 units. Problem developed that caused the
> IF
> product results to be backwards. After noticing this I flipped the < to >
> and it worked correctly to my surprise - but how? After trying Cell
> Format
> options w/o any luck I tried placing a zero in front of the "Y" number
> when
> typing it in with Cell Format set on Numbers w/o decimals (sometimes the
> meter has just rolled over and the number is small w/one or more zeros in
> the
> ten million place and downward in value). I now keep the cell in Text
> format
> and place the zeros in (ie: 00012345) and this works fine as well but why
> has this issue just begun presenting itself? There has been many same
> type
> scenarios in the past w/o any issue. Also the file is always renewed
> every
> week using the "Save as" option and just renamed.


From: Joe User on 27 Apr 2010 14:38
"Eiyore" wrote:
> After noticing this I flipped the < to >
> and it worked correctly to my surprise - but how?

My suspicion is that you inadvertently mixed numeric and text data. Note
that when comparing number<text, the result is always TRUE even if the text
appears to be numerically less. But in an arithmetic expression like
number-text, the text will be converted to the correct number. For example,
if Y1 contains ="00123" and Z1 contain =200 (both formatted as General):

=IF(Z1<Y1,1000000-Y1+Z1,Z1-Y1)

results in 1000077, which might surprise you.


> I now keep the cell in Text format and place the zeros in
> (ie: 00012345) and this works fine as well but why
> has this issue just begun presenting itself?

I presume you were careful to keep all data either all text or all numeric
before.

IMHO, the better solution is enter the data as numeric. If you want leading
zeros, use the Custom format 00000000 (8 zeros).


----- original message -----

"Eiyore" wrote:
> I have been using a simple IF formula w/o any problem for several weeks until
> now. The IF statement just calculates the amount of product from a meter
> every week. This simple formula compares the 1st of the week vs the last of
> the week readings and even if this meter rolls over this IF statement
> calculates out the correct amount of product.
>
> IF(Z15<Y15,100000000-Y15+Z15,Z15-Y15) Y=1st of week reading & Z=Last of week
> reading.
>
> The meter goes up to 99,999,999 units. Problem developed that caused the IF
> product results to be backwards. After noticing this I flipped the < to >
> and it worked correctly to my surprise - but how? After trying Cell Format
> options w/o any luck I tried placing a zero in front of the "Y" number when
> typing it in with Cell Format set on Numbers w/o decimals (sometimes the
> meter has just rolled over and the number is small w/one or more zeros in the
> ten million place and downward in value). I now keep the cell in Text format
> and place the zeros in (ie: 00012345) and this works fine as well but why
> has this issue just begun presenting itself? There has been many same type
> scenarios in the past w/o any issue. Also the file is always renewed every
> week using the "Save as" option and just renamed.
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