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From: Terence on 22 Dec 2009 17:23 Would someone like to write to Google and offer to moderate this Forum from the Google -access viewpoint? Apparently one can write to Google about a non-owned Forum and request or offer delete privileges (can be a shared duty). Then you aprove or not the new day's items.
From: Ian Harvey on 22 Dec 2009 22:27 On 23/12/2009 9:23 AM, Terence wrote: > Would someone like to write to Google and offer to moderate this Forum > from the Google -access viewpoint? > > Apparently one can write to Google about a non-owned Forum and request > or offer delete privileges (can be a shared duty). Then you aprove or > not the new day's items. I'd be surprised if that capability applied to usenet groups such as comp.lang.fortran. Others have suggested using a conventional newsreader that gets its messages from an already filtered newsfeed. I strongly second this. Most newsreaders support additional filtering that you can customise to chop out whatever slips through. Their user interface is also typically superior. I only use google groups for searching. If you must use the google groups interface, you might want to investigate Google Groups Killfile - see: http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html It requires firefox and the greasemonkey add-on. I installed it this morning and it seems to work well. With a few appropriate subject filters (using regular expressions that cover keywords that are unlikely to be fortran related - for example "Topic:.*[Nn]ike.*", "Topic:.*[Pp]aypal].*", "Topic:.*[Ff]ashion.*", etc) you can hide 80% of the spam. Only drama is the number of messages listed per page can get rather low. If you want some assistance setting it up then reply to this post. For bonus points, you can write your own news feed filter that sits between your news server (conventional - not google) and your reader - the nntp protocol is pretty straight forward. For double bonus points write that filter using Fortran. For triple bonus points and the programming masochist of the year award, write it only using the F77 subset. It will be the last time that you think fixed length character strings are adequate for general purpose programming. IanH
From: Bug Dout on 22 Dec 2009 23:35 aeroguy <sukhbinder.singh(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Dec 23, 3:23�am, Terence <tbwri...(a)cantv.net> wrote: >> Would someone like to write to Google and offer to moderate this Forum >> from the Google -access viewpoint? I understand your motive but I doubt Google is going to help you. I see two realistic solutions. 1. Find an NNTP server that filters out the spam. You'll probably have to pay for access. 2. Use a news reader with a good filtering mechanism. I use GNUS in Emacs and with a global score file of just half a dozen entries, I rarely see any spam in any group. -- There is no mistaking the dismay on the face of a writer who has just heard that his brain child is a deformed idiot. - L. Sprague de Camp
From: Luka Djigas on 22 Dec 2009 23:38 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:27:25 GMT, Ian Harvey <ian_harvey(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >Others have suggested using a conventional newsreader that gets its >messages from an already filtered newsfeed. I strongly second this. >Most newsreaders support additional filtering that you can customise to >chop out whatever slips through. Their user interface is also typically >superior. I only use google groups for searching. > >If you must use the google groups interface, you might want to >investigate Google Groups Killfile - see: > >http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html > >It requires firefox and the greasemonkey add-on. > >I installed it this morning and it seems to work well. With a few >appropriate subject filters (using regular expressions that cover >keywords that are unlikely to be fortran related - for example >"Topic:.*[Nn]ike.*", "Topic:.*[Pp]aypal].*", "Topic:.*[Ff]ashion.*", >etc) you can hide 80% of the spam. Only drama is the number of messages >listed per page can get rather low. > >If you want some assistance setting it up then reply to this post. You can't really solve a smap problem on public access, either google groups or usenet servers. It's just avoiding the inevidable ... spammers get more creative, and at one point in time, you get fed up with it, and decide it's time either to stop following it, or to find a controlled source of information (academic news servers are usually well maintained, and many times in here people mentioned usenet servers with soem small fee (almost negligable amount yearly)). regards, Luka
From: A Watcher on 22 Dec 2009 23:44
Bug Dout wrote: > aeroguy <sukhbinder.singh(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On Dec 23, 3:23 am, Terence <tbwri...(a)cantv.net> wrote: >>> Would someone like to write to Google and offer to moderate this Forum >>> from the Google -access viewpoint? > I understand your motive but I doubt Google is going to help you. > > I see two realistic solutions. > > 1. Find an NNTP server that filters out the spam. You'll probably have > to pay for access. > > 2. Use a news reader with a good filtering mechanism. I use GNUS in > Emacs and with a global score file of just half a dozen entries, I > rarely see any spam in any group. That doesn't solve the problem of potential readers being turned off by the spam and avoiding the NGs that are getting hammered or avoiding Usenet altogether. Sure those of us who know the ropes can avoid it, but many other people aren't going to make the effort. |