The Constant Speed of Light. [Relativity]

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From: Sue... on 18 Feb 2006 02:31

Len Gaasenbeek wrote:
> .......................................................................
> > Does your paper explain how that corkscrewing critter
> > illuminates all four of these:
> > http://www.eso.org/projects/vlti/images/vlti-array-smallsize.jpg
> > http://www.eso.org/projects/vlti/
> > ...so it can add constructivly or destructivly after passing
> > the four delay lines ?
> >
> > Sue...
> > http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL3D/teal_tour.htm
> .............................................................
> To Sue,
>
> In essence what you are saying is, that the since the workable size of an
> optical telescope is limited and consequently can only project the image of
> an observed star on a screen of limited quality.
>
> To improve the sharpness and detail of the projected image of a distant star
> astronomers hit on the idea of using several telescopes and have each
> telescope project the image of the observed star on the same spot on the
> screen. The resulting improved image is comparable to what one telescope of
> the same light gathering capacity as the 4 separate telescopes, would
> produce.
>
> The added complication is that the projected images of the four telescopes
> have to reach the screen in phase with each other for them to add up
> successfully. (Similar to the two split experiment) To this end the
> distance traveled by the light from each telescope to the screen must be the
> same for the images to arrive in phase. This way the images will add to,
> rather than subtract from, each other.
>
> This latest development has not come about as a result of a better
> understanding exactly what a light beam consists off. It is simply a
> practical solution to an old problem.
>
> However the helical photon wave concept does provide for a better
> understanding what happens when similar light beams are in or out of phase
> with each other.

Then you have some inclusion of Feynman's path integral ?
http://www.physics.yorku.ca/undergrad_programme/highsch/Feynm4.html

Sue...

>
> Enjoy, Len.
> ..............................................................

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Len Gaasenbeek wrote: > > THE CONSTANT SPEED OF LIGHT. > -=-snip-=-
> If we multiply any given frequency with its corresponding wavelength,
> we get the speed of light c, providing the electromagnetic wave
> travels through a vacuum. -=-
> It also explains the duality of light, since the photons don't need
> a medium to travel through to form a wave, and are in fact slowed
> down if they are made to travel through a medium other than a vacuum.
>
> Why the product of the frequency and the wavelength of a magnetic
> wave is constant over its spectrum is like asking why the ratio
> between the circumference and the diameter of a circle is 3.14 (pi).
> We just know that if you multiply the diameter of a circle by (pi),
> you will get the length of its circumference.
-=-snip-=-
> Similarly, if you multiply the frequency of an electromagnetic wave
> by its wavelength you will get the constant speed (c) at which all
> magnetic waves travel through a vacuum. In other words like (pi),
> c is one of the constants of physics. -=-
> Helical Particle Waves, at: http://www2.rideau.net/gaasbeek >
> By: Len Gaasenbeek. > Feb. 17, 2006.
Re: The Constant Speed of Light.
Re: Error-bars "in vacu".

From: Len Gaasenbeek on 18 Feb 2006 10:32

"Sue..." <suzysewnshow(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1140247912.685192.79310(a)z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Len Gaasenbeek wrote:
> > .......................................................................
> > > Does your paper explain how that corkscrewing critter
> > > illuminates all four of these:
> > > http://www.eso.org/projects/vlti/images/vlti-array-smallsize.jpg
> > > http://www.eso.org/projects/vlti/
> > > ...so it can add constructivly or destructivly after passing
> > > the four delay lines ?
> > >
> > > Sue...
> > > http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL3D/teal_tour.htm
> > .............................................................
> > To Sue,
> >
> > In essence what you are saying is, that the since the workable size of
an
> > optical telescope is limited and consequently can only project the image
of
> > an observed star on a screen of limited quality.
> >
> > To improve the sharpness and detail of the projected image of a distant
star
> > astronomers hit on the idea of using several telescopes and have each
> > telescope project the image of the observed star on the same spot on the
> > screen. The resulting improved image is comparable to what one
telescope of
> > the same light gathering capacity as the 4 separate telescopes, would
> > produce.
> >
> > The added complication is that the projected images of the four
telescopes
> > have to reach the screen in phase with each other for them to add up
> > successfully. (Similar to the two split experiment) To this end the
> > distance traveled by the light from each telescope to the screen must be
the
> > same for the images to arrive in phase. This way the images will add
to,
> > rather than subtract from, each other.
> >
> > This latest development has not come about as a result of a better
> > understanding exactly what a light beam consists off. It is simply a
> > practical solution to an old problem.
> >
> > However the helical photon wave concept does provide for a better
> > understanding what happens when similar light beams are in or out of
phase
> > with each other.
>
> Then you have some inclusion of Feynman's path integral ?
> http://www.physics.yorku.ca/undergrad_programme/highsch/Feynm4.html
>
> Sue...
.................................................................
To Sue,

First of all, I am not an admirer of Feynman since he was the worst
(academic) offender in turning the science of particle physics into a
religious magic show and himself into its prophet.

Secondly, I think that your above quotation by Feynman confuses the issue
rather than add to our understanding of the use of multiple telescopes.

Basically what I was saying in my previous posting was that, if you were
giving a slide show in a large hall and wanted to brighten the projected
image of the slide projector, you could use a second slide projector on top
of your existing projector to project a copy of the same slide on the
screen, making the projected image twice as bright.

However for this to work, the second projector would have to be the same
distance away from the screen as the first projector. It would have to be
pointed at exactly the same spot on the screen and the second projected
image would have to be of the same size as the first image. In so doing the
two projected images should also be in phase and strengthen rather than
detract from each other.

In today's computer world the television image of the star produced by each
telescope can be digitally added to the television images generated by any
number of other telescopes. This way, the image of the star produced by
each telescope can be computer manipulated to make them a near perfect
match, before they are digitally added together to form the resultant image.

Len.
.........................................................

> >
> > Enjoy, Len.
> > ..............................................................

From: Sue... on 18 Feb 2006 10:45

Len Gaasenbeek wrote:
> "Sue..." <suzysewnshow(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1140247912.685192.79310(a)z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Len Gaasenbeek wrote:
> > > .......................................................................
> > > > Does your paper explain how that corkscrewing critter
> > > > illuminates all four of these:
> > > > http://www.eso.org/projects/vlti/images/vlti-array-smallsize.jpg
> > > > http://www.eso.org/projects/vlti/
> > > > ...so it can add constructivly or destructivly after passing
> > > > the four delay lines ?
> > > >
> > > > Sue...
> > > > http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL3D/teal_tour.htm
> > > .............................................................
> > > To Sue,
> > >
> > > In essence what you are saying is, that the since the workable size of
> an
> > > optical telescope is limited and consequently can only project the image
> of
> > > an observed star on a screen of limited quality.
> > >
> > > To improve the sharpness and detail of the projected image of a distant
> star
> > > astronomers hit on the idea of using several telescopes and have each
> > > telescope project the image of the observed star on the same spot on the
> > > screen. The resulting improved image is comparable to what one
> telescope of
> > > the same light gathering capacity as the 4 separate telescopes, would
> > > produce.
> > >
> > > The added complication is that the projected images of the four
> telescopes
> > > have to reach the screen in phase with each other for them to add up
> > > successfully. (Similar to the two split experiment) To this end the
> > > distance traveled by the light from each telescope to the screen must be
> the
> > > same for the images to arrive in phase. This way the images will add
> to,
> > > rather than subtract from, each other.
> > >
> > > This latest development has not come about as a result of a better
> > > understanding exactly what a light beam consists off. It is simply a
> > > practical solution to an old problem.
> > >
> > > However the helical photon wave concept does provide for a better
> > > understanding what happens when similar light beams are in or out of
> phase
> > > with each other.
> >
> > Then you have some inclusion of Feynman's path integral ?
> > http://www.physics.yorku.ca/undergrad_programme/highsch/Feynm4.html
> >
> > Sue...
> ................................................................
> To Sue,
>
> First of all, I am not an admirer of Feynman since he was the worst
> (academic) offender in turning the science of particle physics into a
> religious magic show and himself into its prophet.
>
> Secondly, I think that your above quotation by Feynman confuses the issue
> rather than add to our understanding of the use of multiple telescopes.
>
> Basically what I was saying in my previous posting was that, if you were
> giving a slide show in a large hall and wanted to brighten the projected
> image of the slide projector, you could use a second slide projector on top
> of your existing projector to project a copy of the same slide on the
> screen, making the projected image twice as bright.
>
> However for this to work, the second projector would have to be the same
> distance away from the screen as the first projector. It would have to be
> pointed at exactly the same spot on the screen and the second projected
> image would have to be of the same size as the first image. In so doing the
> two projected images should also be in phase and strengthen rather than
> detract from each other.
>
> In today's computer world the television image of the star produced by each
> telescope can be digitally added to the television images generated by any
> number of other telescopes. This way, the image of the star produced by
> each telescope can be computer manipulated to make them a near perfect
> match, before they are digitally added together to form the resultant image.
>
> Len.

Suppose I want to take the emission of a single star-atom
(photon?) and subtract two of the mirrors from the other two
to get a complete null ? The light from one projector will not
destructivly interfer with the light from another as you have
described the overlay of images. The VLTI however permits
both constructive and destructive interference.

Does your theory account for the destructive interferrance that
is observed at VLTI Paranal ?

Sue...

> ........................................................
>
> > >
> > > Enjoy, Len.
> > > ..............................................................

From: Sue... on 18 Feb 2006 10:46

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