The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
|
From: krw on 17 Mar 2007 12:38 In article <m3tzwj3ltd.fsf(a)garlic.com>, lynn(a)garlic.com says... > > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> writes: > > Predictions of doom and gloom weren't hard to come by. Akers was > > running the company into the ground by, among other things, borrowing > > money to pay the dividends. It wasn't too hard to see where that was > > going. > > > > Oh, and it's easy making such unfavorable statements when you're > > golden. ;-) > > re: > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#24 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits? > > are you referring to me? No, me. > maybe datamation had an article mentioning something to that effect > ... however, i never saw any such stuff. it possibly more was a > situation that after demonstrating some immunity to not having career, > promotions and/or raises ... there wasn't a lot left that they could > do (except out and out fire you). are you referring to me? ;-) As a friend of mine used to say; "if they fire you they can't make your life miserable." > it was more akin to Boyd's quote ... in this post > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#20 MS to world: Stop sending money, we have enough - was Re: Most ... can't run Vista > > except I appeared to have been afflicted long before I met Boyd. > > another related reference: > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#48 time spent/day on a computer > -- Keith
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler on 17 Mar 2007 12:39 re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#29 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits? oh, and during the hey day of FS ... i wouldn't join in with the rest of the crowd and joing the stampede ... indirect reference: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.htmL#14 more shared segment archeology i had made unflattering reference with comparison to a long-playing (decade plus) cult film playing down in central sq ... and something about the inmates being in charge of the institution. recent posts in this thread mentioning future system project http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#26 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#28 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits? other posts mentioning panning FS as career enhancing move http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#100 Why won't the AS/400 die? Or, It's 1999 why do I have to learn how to use http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#16 [OT] FS - IBM Future System http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#33 IBM's "VM for the PC" c.1984?? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#8 Card Columns http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#1 System/360; Hardwired vs. Microcoded http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#19 Where should the type information be: in tags and descriptors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#32 IBM Plugs Big Iron to the College Crowd http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#39 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#16 Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#5 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#15 Hercules 3.04 announcement http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#52 Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#33 virtual memory http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#44 Musings on a holiday weekend http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#50 what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#48 time spent/day on a computer
From: l_cole on 17 Mar 2007 20:53 On Mar 17, 3:44 am, jmfbah...(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <45faca01$0$1342$4c368...(a)roadrunner.com>, > Peter Flass <Peter_Fl...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote: > > >jmfbah...(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> There were many sane ways to move customers from the one product > >> line to the other, IF that was a goal. The choice was the most > >> insane method. This was part of the IBM thinking that was > >> injected (sorry, Lynn) into middle management. IBM customers > >> were used to being ordered around "for their own good". > > >Maybe in some respects, but many would say the reason for IBM's success > >was that it always tried to maintain backwards-compatibility. A program > >from the earliest 360 days (executable, not just source) will run the > >same today on the most recent version of the hardware and OS. That's 42 > >years of compatibility! > > That is NOT maintaining backwards compatibility. You create a > design that simply won't _break_ old code. Then you don't have > to spend a single maintenance dollar on your customers' old > code. > Okay, I'll bite ... if someone out there thinks they understand what BAH is getting at here, would you please explain it to me in English? I recall BAH mentioning something to the effect that she had some difficulty getting across what she means at times and this was certainly the case for me with this reply. ISTM that creating a design that "simply won't _break_ old code" is pretty much the definition of "backwards compatibility" and doing so for decades is "maintaining backwards compatibility". > I am assuming that you are using the word 'maintenance' very > loosely but it cannot be used this way if you are designing > tomorrow's CPU. > > This is the most important point of the design. Everything else > is bits and bytes. If you have to maintain your customers' old > code (which includes all of your old code), you'll go bankrupt. > Period. > Again, if someone out there thinks they understand what BAH is getting in the last paragraph, would you please explain it to me in English? So long as a company can continue to make more money than it loses, it isn't going to go bankrupt. Period. So simply "maintaining" a customer's old code in no way shape or form automatically implies bankruptcy. The fact that IBM seems to be pulling off maintaining their customers' old code (as well as their own) pretty clearly demonstrate this is true. > /BAH
From: kenney on 17 Mar 2007 22:45 In article <Cc6dnfNo65ghlmfYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d(a)comcast.com>, gah(a)ugcs.caltech.edu (glen herrmannsfeldt) wrote: > the other is with a mode bit somewhere. See "Soul of a New Machine" for some designers opinion of mode bits. Ken Young
From: Michael Widerkrantz on 18 Mar 2007 07:42
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: > Then, as with TOPS-10, DEC essentially canned VMS. Are you aware that HP still delivers OpenVMS systems? HP also still sells[1] and supports Alpha systems although they have moved on to IA64 (sometimes known as the Itanic in comp.arch). The largest server is the Integrity Superdome with 64 processors (128 cores, 32 cores supported under OpenVMS) and 2 Terabytes RAM in a single server. OpenVMS pages at HP: http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/ [1] Until April 27, 2007. So buy now! |