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From: John Doe on 30 Jul 2010 03:05 VanguardLH <V nguard.LH> wrote: > John Doe wrote: > >> PeoplesChoice Chicago.net wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> Just got your message. Don't understand what you mean by >>> 'don't use Forte Agent.' >> >> It is a very popular newsreader. I have it. The group for Agent >> is not (news.software.readers), that is for Xnews and others >> less popular than Agent. The big Agent group is >> (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent). But the idea is a good >> one, you should always refer to the appropriate group when >> asking about your newsreader, they know all about it. They can >> explain what you should do in Agent to re-download the thread. >> I probably would just delete the group, resubscribe to the >> group, and then get the headers again. > > They discuss Xnews as well as 40tude Dialog, Xananews, MesNews, > SuperGravity, or WHATEVER newsreader. It is not for a specific > newsreader. That is what "for Xnews and others" means. > That's NOT the title of that newsgroup. IT IS IN FACT THE TITLE OF THAT NEWSGROUP. You could have tried looking... > However, assuming it is active, It is very active. > a newsgroup specifically for your particular newsreader would > probably yield better results. > > Considering Forte Inc is a commercial busines that relies on > sales of its payware version of Forte Agent, it seems awfully > chinzy that they don't provide their own support forum. The only reason I might need a web-based forum is if there is no UseNet forum. And having a USENET FORUM for a USENET NEWSREADER makes perfect sense. And there is a specific forum for Forte Agent (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent). -- > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.musoftware.de!wum.musoftware.de!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail > From: VanguardLH <V nguard.LH> > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: This "group" got corrupted on my PC > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:40:28 -0500 > Organization: 0.35MOA sniper at loose in Usenet > Lines: 28 > Message-ID: <i2ts4p$ra1$1 news.albasani.net> > References: <9ans465dlh9o6jl1ncha60aion40715grr 4ax.com> <i2n3s1$njv$1 news.albasani.net> <gk8456dse4g1qtbpf8s4sn5pjtg7d9ton5 4ax.com> <4c522600$0$16685$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Trace: news.albasani.net fok+5iIyrxJ/9gBj9AHiiIFvMF1Nq2naiuBka22FbgxmHNXXSnyfUrmIeyH7JvMXr0qoo4qn5WUx1T8Ud9j/D7ul8lsGQ0xa7rLrAOTlU3FH4tyxgurEoz1DhSiwpwNn > X-Complaints-To: abuse albasani.net > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:40:25 +0000 (UTC) > Keywords: VanguardLH VLH811 > X-User-ID: xvuwyw2rUGFaRj7PO2V+sauoNAynZVh6d8SgqLeNeg/J+UGINfdouUp0W3S7w/G8SdsctjNLJyWyIhtdJe/i3A== > Cancel-Lock: sha1:0LdxBjP25XP3nRzaIFRwLZDKt7I= > User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 > X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tgw6Jv7sKv4v53LMpjUlTx8YUCcwZkA64/PYxOZN1tc= > X-MOTD: It is wiser to remain silent and let others ponder your ignorance than to speak and remove all doubt >
From: VanguardLH on 30 Jul 2010 14:00 John Doe wrote: > VanguardLH <V nguard.LH> wrote: > >> John Doe wrote: >> >>> PeoplesChoice Chicago.net wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>>> Just got your message. Don't understand what you mean by >>>> 'don't use Forte Agent.' >>> >>> It is a very popular newsreader. I have it. The group for Agent >>> is not (news.software.readers), that is for Xnews and others >>> less popular than Agent. The big Agent group is >>> (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent). But the idea is a good >>> one, you should always refer to the appropriate group when >>> asking about your newsreader, they know all about it. They can >>> explain what you should do in Agent to re-download the thread. >>> I probably would just delete the group, resubscribe to the >>> group, and then get the headers again. >> >> They discuss Xnews as well as 40tude Dialog, Xananews, MesNews, >> SuperGravity, or WHATEVER newsreader. It is not for a specific >> newsreader. > > That is what "for Xnews and others" means. > >> That's NOT the title of that newsgroup. > > IT IS IN FACT THE TITLE OF THAT NEWSGROUP. > You could have tried looking... Where in the newsgroup title of news.software.readers do you see the string "xnews"? Or "less popular than Forte Agent"? There are more posts (by number and by bytes) made by sucky Outlook Express than by Forte. Go look at some stats at http://www.newsadmin.com/usenet.asp. Forte happens to be one of those "less popular" newsreaders that you berate. Based on your logic, microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general is to discuss OE and news.software.readers discusses newsreaders that are "less popular than Outlook Express" - and that would include your Forte Agent. However, you can discuss the good/bad of Outlook Express or ask for help on OE in news.software.readers, too. Perhaps dyslexia makes you think "news.*" is "xnews.*". Guess that means all those news.admin.* groups are all about Xnews instead of administering an NNTP (news) server. Or NANAE is only about spammers posting with Xnews despite the group is about e-mail. news.groups.proposals and news.announce.newsgroups group must be to discuss creating newsgroups that are accessible only by Xnews, uh huh. You don't have a clue what the news.* hierarchy is about. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/hierarchy-list/ (would be nice if they could tabulate properly) "news: Usenet news" That isn't just 1-way posts announcing some "news" blurb about Usenet. Some are exhibit-only groups (you post there but discuss elsewhere). Some actually are announcement-only groups. And some are discussion groups. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_hierarchy#Hierarchies "news.* — Discussion of Usenet itself" Please show me the charter, if it has one, for news.software.readers that mandates only "Xnews and others less popular than Agent" are allowed there. If it makes you happy to think the news.software.readers group is for nothing but non-Forte newsreaders then go right ahead to continue believing that. The rest of us choose not to wear blinders. If you want to only visit your alt newsgroup to get help with Forte stuff then go right ahead. No one else is similarly constrained to do so. >> Considering Forte Inc is a commercial busines that relies on >> sales of its payware version of Forte Agent, it seems awfully >> chinzy that they don't provide their own support forum. > > The only reason I might need a web-based forum is if there is no > UseNet forum. And having a USENET FORUM for a USENET NEWSREADER > makes perfect sense. And there is a specific forum for Forte > Agent (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent). I didn't address your particular preferences. I was addressing the behavior of *Forte Inc* in not providing a peer community for support. They also do not run their own NNTP server (private or peered). I didn't even see them providing a link to the forte group in Usenet for peer support. Well, since you're stuck having to buy their software since they no longer have a free version (that is current) then I suppose you've paid for support and they expect you to use that even for simple stuff, like how to add servers or configure the program.
From: VanguardLH on 30 Jul 2010 14:26 John Doe wrote: > Forte Agent is a good newsreader with a big following. Does Forte still provide a FREE version of their Agent program? Or is it just trialware and payware now? Are you stuck (as with several newsreaders, including mine) in having to use an old and unsupported version to get a free version? As I said, "I won't waste money on a newsreader. Too many free ones to choose from." In the [old] Forte "Free Agent", does it now support multiple NNTP servers within one config? Or do I still have to use multiple config files, one for each NNTP server, and have to specify the config file on loading Forte Agent Free which means I have N copies of it running for concurrent access to N servers. Does the latest Forte Free Agent version let you use regex in filters? Will those filters run automatically when it polls the NNTP server(s)? Or am I still stuck with saving searches and then remembering to manually run them? I think Feb 2007 was when I last trialed Forte Free Agent. Has there been a update to the *free* version since then? The latest payware version is 6 for Forte Agent. What is the last available version for their free (crippled) and non-trialware version? Wasn't it 3.3 dated back around June 2007, or was that a "free to try with no limitations" version that really wasn't freeware(i.e., it was shareware that you were expected to eventually buy)? I went back to the OP's headers and noticed he is using version 5.0 of Forte Agent which is a payware version. So this discussion about the Free Agent version doesn't apply to him. But I was curious is Free Agent (not available from Forte for a long time) got any better or changed at all after my trial of it.
From: John Doe on 30 Jul 2010 14:41 I simply pointed out that there is a specific group for Forte Agent that handles most of its questions. I told the original poster that your idea of seeking help in a specific group is a good one. Get a grip, dude. -- VanguardLH <V nguard.LH> wrote: > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail > From: VanguardLH <V nguard.LH> > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: This "group" got corrupted on my PC > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:00:16 -0500 > Organization: 0.35MOA sniper at loose in Usenet > Lines: 92 > Message-ID: <i2v3u4$od9$1 news.albasani.net> > References: <9ans465dlh9o6jl1ncha60aion40715grr 4ax.com> <i2n3s1$njv$1 news.albasani.net> <gk8456dse4g1qtbpf8s4sn5pjtg7d9ton5 4ax.com> <4c522600$0$16685$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <i2ts4p$ra1$1 news.albasani.net> <4c5279a6$0$21230$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Trace: news.albasani.net 9Uga02Vxd2jczF8WtNlqESznsqblWadYr7OvR0YWljuHIWIhhIZE5zkhwIrjvwb3U+koCZ7YrZmplAJe5hjGtrABJOyPgg6PKpv7FfviiYDzSJrgQ4/7NKvw/6VWXYDt > X-Complaints-To: abuse albasani.net > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:59:33 +0000 (UTC) > Keywords: VanguardLH VLH811 > X-User-ID: i+0TNaXZbztEN5e/e4MOJzSuACb6L6C2MWXozNMNVVPxfMfuMffUkk+TY5TSUJD2Kr/l5nR8POD8fJUAKN6Hsg== > Cancel-Lock: sha1:dppxKMIGGsvFh/x9ugnjMjkeSrk= > User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 > X-NNTP-Posting-Host: jTYergN5vEInMhFCrZBXD9cOgxusXcIOVPvHYkesQQ4= > X-MOTD: It is wiser to remain silent and let others ponder your ignorance than to speak and remove all doubt > > John Doe wrote: > >> VanguardLH <V nguard.LH> wrote: >> >>> John Doe wrote: >>> >>>> PeoplesChoice Chicago.net wrote: >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> Just got your message. Don't understand what you mean by >>>>> 'don't use Forte Agent.' >>>> >>>> It is a very popular newsreader. I have it. The group for Agent >>>> is not (news.software.readers), that is for Xnews and others >>>> less popular than Agent. The big Agent group is >>>> (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent). But the idea is a good >>>> one, you should always refer to the appropriate group when >>>> asking about your newsreader, they know all about it. They can >>>> explain what you should do in Agent to re-download the thread. >>>> I probably would just delete the group, resubscribe to the >>>> group, and then get the headers again. >>> >>> They discuss Xnews as well as 40tude Dialog, Xananews, MesNews, >>> SuperGravity, or WHATEVER newsreader. It is not for a specific >>> newsreader. >> >> That is what "for Xnews and others" means. >> >>> That's NOT the title of that newsgroup. >> >> IT IS IN FACT THE TITLE OF THAT NEWSGROUP. >> You could have tried looking... > > Where in the newsgroup title of news.software.readers do you see the > string "xnews"? Or "less popular than Forte Agent"? There are more > posts (by number and by bytes) made by sucky Outlook Express than by > Forte. Go look at some stats at http://www.newsadmin.com/usenet.asp. > Forte happens to be one of those "less popular" newsreaders that you > berate. Based on your logic, microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general is > to discuss OE and news.software.readers discusses newsreaders that are > "less popular than Outlook Express" - and that would include your Forte > Agent. However, you can discuss the good/bad of Outlook Express or ask > for help on OE in news.software.readers, too. > > Perhaps dyslexia makes you think "news.*" is "xnews.*". Guess that > means all those news.admin.* groups are all about Xnews instead of > administering an NNTP (news) server. Or NANAE is only about spammers > posting with Xnews despite the group is about e-mail. > news.groups.proposals and news.announce.newsgroups group must be to > discuss creating newsgroups that are accessible only by Xnews, uh huh. > You don't have a clue what the news.* hierarchy is about. > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/hierarchy-list/ > (would be nice if they could tabulate properly) > "news: Usenet news" > > That isn't just 1-way posts announcing some "news" blurb about Usenet. > Some are exhibit-only groups (you post there but discuss elsewhere). > Some actually are announcement-only groups. And some are discussion > groups. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_hierarchy#Hierarchies > "news.* � " Discussion of Usenet itself" > > Please show me the charter, if it has one, for news.software.readers > that mandates only "Xnews and others less popular than Agent" are > allowed there. > > If it makes you happy to think the news.software.readers group is for > nothing but non-Forte newsreaders then go right ahead to continue > believing that. The rest of us choose not to wear blinders. If you > want to only visit your alt newsgroup to get help with Forte stuff then > go right ahead. No one else is similarly constrained to do so. > >>> Considering Forte Inc is a commercial busines that relies on >>> sales of its payware version of Forte Agent, it seems awfully >>> chinzy that they don't provide their own support forum. >> >> The only reason I might need a web-based forum is if there is no >> UseNet forum. And having a USENET FORUM for a USENET NEWSREADER >> makes perfect sense. And there is a specific forum for Forte >> Agent (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent). > > I didn't address your particular preferences. I was addressing the > behavior of *Forte Inc* in not providing a peer community for support. > They also do not run their own NNTP server (private or peered). I > didn't even see them providing a link to the forte group in Usenet for > peer support. Well, since you're stuck having to buy their software > since they no longer have a free version (that is current) then I > suppose you've paid for support and they expect you to use that even for > simple stuff, like how to add servers or configure the program. >
From: John Doe on 31 Jul 2010 03:50 Again, the experts are in (alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent) That is the group you should go to for help with Forte Agent.
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