From: Tom Anderson on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, F8BOE wrote:

> If Ubuntu is the "the only distro that satisfies" you,
> - you missed the real distros for beginners
> - you missed the last distros released
> - you didn't search enough
>
> If you need to login as root under Unix,
> - you cannot use your distro's configuration tool
> - your distro have no configuration tool
> - you have chosen the wrong distro
> - you are better using winboobs
>
> Ubuntu IS for sure NOT a distro for beginners. Distros easy to use for
> beginners have always a real configuration tool such as the MCC for
> Mandriva.

I thought the whole point of Ubuntu was that it was for beginners? It
looks flashy, it's got lots of hardware support, so you can install and go
like you would with Windows. It's even overcomplicated and error-prone, to
make switchers feel completely at home!

tom

--
I'm angry, but not Milk and Cheese angry. -- Mike Froggatt
From: Martin Gregorie on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:41:44 +0100, Dave Pickles wrote:

> Martin Gregorie wrote:
>
>
>> Unfortunately, that all seems to be KDE stuff (I have a couple of KDE
>> apps installed such as k3b). There's nothing there that's related to
>> the Gnome login screen.
>
> Coincidentally I was battling with gdm (the Gnome login manager)
> yesterday. It does seem to have far fewer options than kdm, and I
> believe it relies on PAM to decide who is and is not allowed to log in.
>
> In principle there is no reason why kdm could not be used in a Gnome
> setup, but I'm not familiar enough with Fedora to know how it would
> handle that.
>
Thats given me a kick in the right direction: thanks. I looks like the
stuff I need to play with is in the pam config files.


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From: Martin Gregorie on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:56:36 +0100, Mike Civil wrote:

> In article <hvlv7b$10s$2(a)localhost.localdomain>, Martin Gregorie
> <martin(a)address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>>Unfortunately, that all seems to be KDE stuff (I have a couple of KDE
>>apps installed such as k3b). There's nothing there that's related to the
>>Gnome login screen.
>
> Looks like GDM uses PAM :-
>
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/fedora-10-root-login/

Bingo! Many thanks.

The following is worth noting: the contents of that reference only
applies 'as is' to Fedora 10. For Fedora 12 there are two additional
files, gdm-fingerprint and gdm-password that also require the line:

auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet

to be commented out before gdm will accept a root login request.

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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
From: Martin Gregorie on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:56:36 +0100, Mike Civil wrote:

> In article <hvlv7b$10s$2(a)localhost.localdomain>, Martin Gregorie
> <martin(a)address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>>Unfortunately, that all seems to be KDE stuff (I have a couple of KDE
>>apps installed such as k3b). There's nothing there that's related to the
>>Gnome login screen.
>
> Looks like GDM uses PAM :-
>
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/fedora-10-root-login/

Bingo! Many thanks.

The following is worth noting: the contents of that reference only
applies 'as is' to Fedora 10. For Fedora 12 there are two additional
files, gdm-fingerprint and gdm-password that also require the line:

auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet

to be commented out before gdm will accept a root login request.

--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
From: Ian on
On 20 June, 11:37, grinch <gri...(a)somewhere.com> wrote:

> I have just installed 10.04 on an intel atom machine as it is the only
> distro that works out of the box( I am a lazy git).I personally don't like
> ubuntu a for the very reason you state you cant log in as root.

Unless, as has been pointed out, you take five or ten seconds to set
the root password.

Ian
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