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From: admin on 1 Aug 2010 23:22 Hello, I have an older Pentium 4 motherboard that has been acting up and can only run with one memory module installed. I want to buy a newer more reliable motherboard but am wondering about swapping over the Hard Drive with Windows XP Pro w/ SP3 on it. I understand that the newer and different brand MB will require newer / different drivers . Can I just set it up in the CMOS settings for the HD and boot up or will I need to do a reinstall / boot of the WinXP CD to get the correct drivers loaded and all or will it bomb out anyways. I have a host of apps and all that I don't want to mess with reloading. Thanks in advance for any help
From: Chuck on 1 Aug 2010 23:48 There is no easy answer to your question. First, I'd do a complete backup to other media or even another HD. Next make a "Slipstream" XP CD/DVD, and make sure that it works. Since you seem to be intending to use the same CPU, at least the HAL will be correct for both MBDs. As to drivers, You will need to look at the differences between the new and old MBDs to determine which drivers will likely change or be needed. You may also want to backup the registry as a separate item. To avoid complete application reinstall, it's possible (with a lot of research and effort to merge sections of the old registry with a new "clean" registry. Whatever you do, make sure that you have the means to get from whatever XP version you have install CD/DVDs for to XP 3. Microsoft has not made this process as simple and easy as it should be, particularly when you have an older XP install version, such as RTM or "Gold". the pre SP2 versions can have complications, such as needing a SATA driver during the initial install process. On 8/1/2010 11:22 PM, admin(a)home wrote: > Hello, > I have an older Pentium 4 motherboard that has been acting up and can only > run with one memory module installed. I want to buy a newer more reliable > motherboard but am wondering about swapping over the Hard Drive with Windows > XP Pro w/ SP3 on it. I understand that the newer and different brand MB will > require newer / different drivers . Can I just set it up in the CMOS > settings for the HD and boot up or will I need to do a reinstall / boot of > the WinXP CD to get the correct drivers loaded and all or will it bomb out > anyways. I have a host of apps and all that I don't want to mess with > reloading. Thanks in advance for any help
From: Justin on 2 Aug 2010 01:06 In article <19EBB813-C19E-4EDB-921F-F86CC470A5B8(a)microsoft.com>, admin(a)home <admin(a)home@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Hello, > I have an older Pentium 4 motherboard that has been acting up and can only > run with one memory module installed. I want to buy a newer more reliable > motherboard but am wondering about swapping over the Hard Drive with Windows > XP Pro w/ SP3 on it. I understand that the newer and different brand MB will > require newer / different drivers . Can I just set it up in the CMOS > settings for the HD and boot up or will I need to do a reinstall / boot of > the WinXP CD to get the correct drivers loaded and all or will it bomb out > anyways. I have a host of apps and all that I don't want to mess with > reloading. Thanks in advance for any help Absolutely positively not. You can't just swap the drive into a machine with a different board and expect it to work. Even if you do somehow get it working I would worry about stability issues. If you upgrade the board you will want to reinstall the OS from scratch to get the best results. I realize you have a bunch of apps you don't want to reload but doing just that is the best course of action.
From: Paul on 2 Aug 2010 01:45 admin(a)home wrote: > Hello, > I have an older Pentium 4 motherboard that has been acting up and can only > run with one memory module installed. I want to buy a newer more reliable > motherboard but am wondering about swapping over the Hard Drive with Windows > XP Pro w/ SP3 on it. I understand that the newer and different brand MB will > require newer / different drivers . Can I just set it up in the CMOS > settings for the HD and boot up or will I need to do a reinstall / boot of > the WinXP CD to get the correct drivers loaded and all or will it bomb out > anyways. I have a host of apps and all that I don't want to mess with > reloading. Thanks in advance for any help I've done that transition once with WinXP. (And a few times with Win2K.) I've used various methods to do the transition. This is what I did for WinXP. I went from a board with VIA chipset (8237S Southbridge) to a board with Intel ICH9R Southbridge. Both were socket LGA775, and the same processor was used on both. The trick I used, is I installed a Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE controller card in the computer, before changing motherboards. I installed the card in the old motherboard first. Then, installed a driver for it. Then, unplugged the WinXP drive from the motherboard connector, and moved it to the new card. Once the motherboard was changed out, I used the same PCI card to control the disk. I plugged the disk and PCI controller, into the new motherboard. The OS came up, because it already had the driver for the Ultra133 in it. So it didn't have a problem booting. The New Hardware eizard put a whole bunch of dialogs up, and it took a couple hours of tracking down additional drivers and the like, lots of reboots, before the job was finished. At first, I thought I was screwed, because my USB mouse didn't work at the beginning. But somehow, I managed to get the USB mouse to work eventually, so I could control the computer. The new motherboard didn't have a PS/2 mouse port, and if I'd had a PS/2 mouse port, there would have been no problems at all. Once everything had settled down, and all the new motherboard drivers were in place, I could move the hard drive over to a motherboard connector, and remove the Ultra133 TX2 card. And WinXP still needed to be activated, but it didn't require a phone call. It worked via the Internet. Some other people have been stuck in situations, where activation was a problem. (Or they couldn't even get the new system to the point, that they could do anything with it, due to some kind of activation issue.) But I was lucky, and connecting over the Internet was enough. The motherboard has a new Ethernet chip on it, which counts against activation. But the same hard drive, with the same serial number and volume ID was used. So a lot of the things remained the same, from an activation perspective. It still needed to be activated though. (I mess around with the system a fair bit, so it's hard to say how many other things were counting against me.) http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm # Display Adapter <--- same # SCSI Adapter # IDE Adapter (effectively the motherboard) <--- different # Network Adapter (NIC) and its MAC Address <--- different # RAM Amount Range (i.e., 0-64mb, 64-128mb, etc.) <--- same # Processor Type <--- same # Processor Serial Number (only on P3?) # Hard Drive Device <--- same # Hard Drive Volume Serial Number (VSN) <--- same # CD-ROM / CD-RW / DVD-ROM <--- same On an older system, I was able to move Win2K from one system to another, because both used Intel Southbridges, and the build-in Win2K driver for the disk, worked with both. In all cases, I always do a complete backup (clone) of the disk, before booting the new hardware. On one occasion, I needed to use that backup, to restore the disk, because the process didn't go well. So not all of these kinds of adventures, go smoothly. You can also do a Repair Install. That uses your Windows installer CD. During the procedure, there is an opportunity to press F6 and offer a floppy with a disk controller driver on it. Such a floppy would have a TXTSETUP.OEM file at the top level. Some motherboards kits will make such a floppy, using the motherboard CD. Or you can prepare the floppy in advance, if you know ahead of time what driver package is needed. So it can be done with minimal fuss, a bit of fuss, or if you like to level your system regularly, you can always reinstall everything from scratch if you want. And F6 would work there. Like if you needed an AHCI driver for your SATA disk controller, WinXP doesn't have that built-in, so you'd need the F6 thing to provide a driver during installation. HTH, Paul
From: Patok on 2 Aug 2010 04:18
Paul wrote: > > And WinXP still needed to be activated, but it didn't require a phone > call. It worked via the Internet. Some other people have been stuck in > situations, where activation was a problem. (Or they couldn't even > get the new system to the point, that they could do anything with it, > due to some kind of activation issue.) But I was lucky, and connecting > over the Internet was enough. What is this "activation" you're talking about? When does it happen? Maybe I misremember or don't pay attention. I've done a bit of WinXP reinstalls, and don't remember any activations, over the phone or over the internet. I just enter the product key when it asks, and that's that. You don't mean the "Genuine Advantage" validation that happens online, I hope. -- You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone. -- Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn. |