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From: Metspitzer on 29 Dec 2009 13:25 I have a friend. He is trying to get an Ethernet adapter to work with his old machine. He says that he has 98 but he needs 98 second version. I assume that means SP2 for 98. The computer works "fine" with AOL, but he wants to use broadband. Is there a way I could download SP2 and put it on a CD for him? I assume that it would take days to upgrade using dial up.
From: Paul on 29 Dec 2009 13:41 Metspitzer wrote: > I have a friend. He is trying to get an Ethernet adapter to work with > his old machine. He says that he has 98 but he needs 98 second > version. I assume that means SP2 for 98. > > The computer works "fine" with AOL, but he wants to use broadband. Is > there a way I could download SP2 and put it on a CD for him? I assume > that it would take days to upgrade using dial up. 98SE is a commercial product, which you purchase. I know, because I purchases 98SE as an upgrade package for my 98 original machine. 98SE is not a Service Pack, although in retrospect that is what it resembles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/98SE#Windows_98_Second_Edition "Windows 98 SE could be obtained as retail upgrade and full version packages, as well as OEM and a Second Edition Updates Disc for existing Windows 98 users." And I can't remember why exactly I purchased it. Looking at the feature list, nothing really stands out. HTH, Paul
From: Jan Alter on 29 Dec 2009 13:43 "Metspitzer" <kilowatt(a)charter.net> wrote in message news:t5ikj55en0nhe0klsih84f3o06qqgjdpko(a)4ax.com... >I have a friend. He is trying to get an Ethernet adapter to work with > his old machine. He says that he has 98 but he needs 98 second > version. I assume that means SP2 for 98. > > The computer works "fine" with AOL, but he wants to use broadband. Is > there a way I could download SP2 and put it on a CD for him? I assume > that it would take days to upgrade using dial up. What your friend is looking for is Windows 98SE. It is not a download that can be found from the Microsoft website and patched to the original Windows 98 but a later version of Windows 98. Generally speaking it had much greater functionality and versatility than the original Windows 98. If you can get a hold of it one can install it and upgrade Windows 98 to Windows 98SE. If you know of any computer friends who've been in it for awhile they may be able to help you locate a copy. -- Jan Alter bearpuf(a)verizon.net
From: "nobody >" on 29 Dec 2009 22:43 Paul wrote: > Metspitzer wrote: >> I have a friend. He is trying to get an Ethernet adapter to work with >> his old machine. He says that he has 98 but he needs 98 second >> version. I assume that means SP2 for 98. >> >> The computer works "fine" with AOL, but he wants to use broadband. Is >> there a way I could download SP2 and put it on a CD for him? I assume >> that it would take days to upgrade using dial up. For the OP: It's probable that the Ethernet adapter (NIC) doesn't have driver(s) for Win 98/98SE. Both 98/98SE use the same NIC drivers. Probably the safest choice would be to use a different Ethernet adapter (NIC). From my own experience, the most trouble-free one is the Intel 10/100 PCI Network Adapter. It's possible to find "new" ones on eBay, but any second-hand computer parts place (recyclers, etc) will have bins of them, often for $1. The basic driver package (all you need for broadband use)is available at http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?ProductID=38&DwnldID=4235&agr=Y (http://snipurl.com/twsn4 [downloadcenter_intel_com]) (Warning; the page says 98SE, but I know it works with "plain" 98) But... if I recall correctly, there's a MS driver that works on the install disk. Regarding AOL: Google "remove AOL". It's possible that AOL's kludgey "software" may have interfered with your friend's computers "communications systems" to the point that Ethernet won't work. I do remember that AOL's stuff broke the "Winsock"/Ip Protocol Stack quite often. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winsock > > 98SE is a commercial product, which you purchase. I know, because > I purchases 98SE as an upgrade package for my 98 original machine. > 98SE is not a Service Pack, although in retrospect that is what > it resembles. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/98SE#Windows_98_Second_Edition > > "Windows 98 SE could be obtained as retail upgrade and full version > packages, as well as OEM and a Second Edition Updates Disc for existing > Windows 98 users." > > And I can't remember why exactly I purchased it. Looking at the feature > list, nothing really stands out. > > HTH, > Paul For Paul and the OP: Yes, 98SE was mostly a "service pack" for 98, but there wasn't really that much really wrong with "plain" 98. There was so much hardware progress at that time that made 98SE more friendly with the newer stuff at the time, so it was more of a "massive driver layer update" I did the full-blown "tech beta" on both 98 and 98SE, BTDT, even got a Memphis (M$ codename for 98)T-shirt. At this point in time, it probably doesn't matter much whether you have 98 or 98SE if the hardware and software works . As an aside, the absolute *fastest* Windows ever made was the beta builds of "plain" 98 just before M$ decided to "integrate" Internet Exploder.
From: Peter on 30 Dec 2009 11:22
In article <kIudnTQhhrD8UafWnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, usenetharvested(a)aol.com says... > Paul wrote: > > > For Paul and the OP: > Yes, 98SE was mostly a "service pack" for 98, but there wasn't really > that much really wrong with "plain" 98. There was so much hardware > progress at that time that made 98SE more friendly with the newer stuff > at the time, so it was more of a "massive driver layer update" > > I did the full-blown "tech beta" on both 98 and 98SE, BTDT, even got a > Memphis (M$ codename for 98)T-shirt. > > At this point in time, it probably doesn't matter much whether you have > 98 or 98SE if the hardware and software works . > Wasn't USB practically unworkable with win98? However, no USB device these days is going to provide 98 drivers so even the SE version isn't going to fair any better. -- Pete Ives Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email |