From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on
VK wrote:

> Eric Bednarz wrote:
>> I could say now that your problem is that you make things up while you
>> type
>
> No, I am just following what is written on the producer page. The
> current CC docs
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7kx09ct1(v=VS.80).aspx
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ct27x3xa(v=VS.80).aspx
> is a complete rewrite with JScript 8.0 as a target at the top of the
> page. At the time I was reading it a few years ago the target was
> JScript 5.6 and
> 1) @cc_on - @end was given as "pragma parser on/off" paired statements
> 2) @elif was not documented nor mentioned anywhere at all.

You are even a lousier liar than you are a programmer:

<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.71%29.aspx>
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.80%29.aspx>
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.85%29.aspx>

<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.71%29.aspx>
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.80%29.aspx>
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.85%29.aspx>


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From: VK on
> VK wrote:
> > No, I am just following what is written on the producer page. The
> > current CC docs
> >  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7kx09ct1(v=VS.80).aspx
> >  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ct27x3xa(v=VS.80).aspx
> > is a complete rewrite with JScript 8.0 as a target at the top of the
> > page. At the time I was reading it a few years ago the target was
> > JScript 5.6 and
> > 1) @cc_on - @end was given as "pragma parser on/off" paired statements
> > 2) @elif was not documented nor mentioned anywhere at all.
>
>
> On Apr 25, 6:52 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...(a)web.de> wrote:
> You are even a lousier liar than you are a programmer:

Hardly, as long a you are here. :-)

> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.71%29.aspx>
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.80%29.aspx>
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.85%29.aspx>
>
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.71%29.aspx>
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.80%29.aspx>
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.85%29.aspx>

So? In the way MSDN organizes its dynamic URLs the Wayback Machine is
useless. Again: in the way it is written now is day and night by its
completeness and clearness in comparison with 2004-2005. That time it
was more a set of obscure hints one needed to get together and to
decrypt.

Any way, the check is updated for a shorter form proposed by Eric
Bednarz. Any *constructive* comments on the new getAjaxObject code?
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on
VK wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> VK wrote:
>> > No, I am just following what is written on the producer page. The
>> > current CC docs
>> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7kx09ct1(v=VS.80).aspx
>> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ct27x3xa(v=VS.80).aspx
>> > is a complete rewrite with JScript 8.0 as a target at the top of the
>> > page. At the time I was reading it a few years ago the target was
>> > JScript 5.6 and
>> > 1) @cc_on - @end was given as "pragma parser on/off" paired statements
>> > 2) @elif was not documented nor mentioned anywhere at all.
>>
>> You are even a lousier liar than you are a programmer:
> [...]
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.71%29.aspx>
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.80%29.aspx>
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28VS.85%29.aspx>
>>
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.71%29.aspx>
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.80%29.aspx>
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/58dz2w55%28VS.85%29.aspx>
>
> So? In the way MSDN organizes its dynamic URLs the Wayback Machine is
> useless.

The URLs may have changed, but the content has been the same *for years*.

> Again: in the way it is written now is day and night by its completeness
> and clearness in comparison with 2004-2005. That time it was more a set of
> obscure hints one needed to get together and to decrypt.

No, it evidentially (sic!) was/is not. Your problem is that you are either
incapable to understand what you read, or to remember what you have read; so
you are making things up while you are typing, as Eric correctly observed.
Or you are an awful liar. Take your pick.

And learn to quote, if you can learn nothing else.


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From: VK on
Uhmm... I guess I forgot to mention how to eventually get XML from
responseText for IE. IE's serialization ways are numerous, version-
dependent and boring. See for instance:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.xml/browse_frm/thread/822f8a6df3214c1d

Because for other browsers this problem doesn't arise, we can be IE
specific and use quick, dirty and amusingly effective way using IE-
specific XML Data Islands tools and IE's <XML> tag.

So assuming we've got responseText filled, responseXML empty and we
know that it should be a well-formed XML file, we simply do that:

var tmp = document.createElement('DIV');
tmp.innerHTML = '<XML>' + xhr.responseText + '</XML>';
return tmp.firstChild.XMLDocument.documentElement;

Respectively for a HTML fragment we can do:

var tmp = document.createElement('DIV');
tmp.innerHTML = xhr.responseText;
return tmp.firstChild;

Enjoy! :-)
From: VK on
On Apr 25, 9:10 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...(a)web.de>
wrote:
> The URLs may have changed, but the content has been the same *for years*.

So I hallucinated while reading http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/...
years ago. Let's take this conclusion and move on for more important
topics.